On Tuesday 17 May 2011 15:44:39 Robert Hailey wrote:
> 
> On 2011/05/13 (May), at 6:02 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> 
> > In any case, our options appear to be:
> >
> > 1) Try to make opennet work in China.
> > ...
> >
> > We could try to rotate links even, so that only a few nodes have  
> > external connections at a time. The catch is that we don't know what  
> > the limit above is, and it will probably vary from time to time. So  
> > this is probably a dead-end.
> 
> We would also need to be able to distinguish between a local & foreign  
> node. For a single case (like China) that could work, but the general  
> case would be rather difficult to code up (detecting censorship  
> boundaries: national or ISP...). Link latency *might* be clue enough  
> for national boundaries, but not blocking ISPs.
> 
> >
> > 2) Focus on darknet.
> > ...
> > Difficulties:
> > a) If the Chinese darknet is completely sealed off from the western  
> > network, how would they even get software updates? We need better  
> > tools for migrating binary blobs.
> > b) We need some way to ensure that FOAF connections don't result in  
> > dangerous external connections.
> 
> Wether open or dark, if a connection crosses the firewall border it is  
> susceptible. If not dodging under the foreign bandwidth cap (as you  
> mentioned), then the only issue is what to do with the few (if any)  
> unfiltered connections.
> 
> There is a chance that an algorithm which is both aware of 'separate  
> networks' and optimizes for latency would keep most of the traffic  
> within national borders (the firewall surely introduces some latency  
> by itself), and make it a non-issue.

There were some simulations of weakly connected darknets by vive. Apparently 
they mostly do work.
> 
> One might predict the next iteration would block protocols not on a  
> whitelist.

It can always get worse, but for internal comms not quickly IMHO.
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