Submitting a response to the Pitch Black paper seems a bit premature,
given that in the real world we probably have network distribution
problems even without an active adversary.

I continue to think that the biggest thing preventing routing layer
improvements is a fairly deep lack of understanding of what is
actually happening on the network.

And, if you're looking for papers, I think several interesting ones
could be written on that subject :)

Evan Daniel

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ian Clarke <ian at locut.us> wrote:
> Will you submit? ?These guys have rejected our papers in the past
> specifically because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black
> paper, so submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
>
> Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong? ?If you ask him very nicely he
> may be willing to provide feedback on your paper. ?Of course I will too, but
> Theo has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
>
> Ian.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube <michael.grube at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the info!
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke <ian at freenetproject.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> fyi
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: David Hausheer <hausheer at kom.tu-darmstadt.de>
>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
>>> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
>>> To: David Hausheer <hausheer at kom.tu-darmstadt.de>
>>>
>>>
>>> #####################################################################
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?IEEE P2P 2012
>>> ?12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? CALL FOR PAPERS
>>> #####################################################################
>>>
>>> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
>>> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
>>>
>>> ######################################################################
>>> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
>>> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
>>> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
>>> ######################################################################
>>>
>>> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
>>> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
>>> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
>>> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
>>> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
>>> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
>>> including:
>>>
>>> ? ?* Information retrieval and query support
>>> ? ?* P2P for cloud computing
>>> ? ?* Large-scale infrastructure technology
>>> ? ?* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>>> ? ?* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>>> ? ?* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>>> ? ?* Security, trust, and reputation
>>> ? ?* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>>> ? ?* P2P economics
>>> ? ?* Social networks
>>> ? ?* Overlay architectures and topologies
>>> ? ?* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>>> ? ?* Overlay monitoring and management
>>> ? ?* Self-organization
>>> ? ?* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>>> ? ?* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>>> ? ?* Performance, robustness, and scalability
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Paper submission guidelines
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
>>> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
>>> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
>>> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
>>> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
>>> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
>>> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
>>> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
>>> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
>>>
>>> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
>>> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
>>> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
>>> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
>>> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
>>> Society.
>>>
>>> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
>>> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
>>> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
>>> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
>>> might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
>>> anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
>>> describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
>>> allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.
>>>
>>> *Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to the traditional
>>> reviewing process: two-phase reviewing and "open reviews". These
>>> changes are an effort to provide additional feedback to authors of
>>> submitted papers and make the overall reviewing process more
>>> transparent. Specifically, all paper submissions will receive between
>>> 3 and 5 reviews each; while all papers will receive at least 3
>>> reviews, papers of sufficient quality will undergo a second reviewing
>>> phase. In addition, the camera-ready version of each accepted paper
>>> will be accompanied by a 1-page summary that consists of the
>>> significant portions of the (anonymized) reviews that the paper
>>> received during the reviewing process and a 1-paragraph summary by the
>>> authors detailing how they addressed the reviewers' comments. The
>>> conference proceedings as well as the conference website will include
>>> the camera-ready version of each accepted paper together with the
>>> corresponding 1-page summary review.
>>>
>>> In addition to the main conference, IEEE P2P 2012 will have a poster
>>> and demo session, and a conference best paper award. ?Thanks to the
>>> supporting organizations, P2P 2012 also plans to offer a small number
>>> of travel grants . Application Information for these grants will be
>>> published in the P2P'12 web site.
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>> Important Dates
>>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>> ?* Abstract Submission: April 6, 2012
>>> ?* Submission Deadline: April 13, 2012
>>> ?* Notification: July 9, 2012
>>> ?* Author Registration Deadline: July 20, 2012
>>> ?* Camera-ready: July 29, 2012
>>> ?* Conference dates: September 3-5, 2012
>>>
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Contact Information
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>> Fabian Bustamante and John Douceur (TPC Chairs)
>>> Email: p2p12-chairs at comsoc.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Pedro Garcia Lopez (General Chair)
>>> Email: p2p12 at comsoc.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
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