Thanks for this link! I might write up a little paper on a little p2p
project I just made: http://share.gun.io

(I've also just started a mailing list for people who are interested in
hacking on web-based P2P software, if anybody is interested:
webp2p at librelist.com)

Thanks again!
Rich

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Evan Daniel <evanbd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Submitting a response to the Pitch Black paper seems a bit premature,
> given that in the real world we probably have network distribution
> problems even without an active adversary.
>
> I continue to think that the biggest thing preventing routing layer
> improvements is a fairly deep lack of understanding of what is
> actually happening on the network.
>
> And, if you're looking for papers, I think several interesting ones
> could be written on that subject :)
>
> Evan Daniel
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ian Clarke <ian at locut.us> wrote:
> > Will you submit?  These guys have rejected our papers in the past
> > specifically because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black
> > paper, so submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
> >
> > Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely
> he
> > may be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too,
> but
> > Theo has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube <michael.grube at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke <ian at freenetproject.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> fyi
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> From: David Hausheer <hausheer at kom.tu-darmstadt.de>
> >>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
> >>> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
> >>> To: David Hausheer <hausheer at kom.tu-darmstadt.de>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> #####################################################################
> >>>                  IEEE P2P 2012
> >>>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
> >>>                 CALL FOR PAPERS
> >>> #####################################################################
> >>>
> >>> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
> >>> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
> >>>
> >>> ######################################################################
> >>> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
> >>> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
> >>> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
> >>> ######################################################################
> >>>
> >>> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
> >>> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
> >>> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
> >>> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
> >>> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
> >>> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
> >>> including:
> >>>
> >>>    * Information retrieval and query support
> >>>    * P2P for cloud computing
> >>>    * Large-scale infrastructure technology
> >>>    * Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
> >>>    * P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
> >>>    * Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
> >>>    * Security, trust, and reputation
> >>>    * Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
> >>>    * P2P economics
> >>>    * Social networks
> >>>    * Overlay architectures and topologies
> >>>    * Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
> >>>    * Overlay monitoring and management
> >>>    * Self-organization
> >>>    * P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
> >>>    * Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
> >>>    * Performance, robustness, and scalability
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> Paper submission guidelines
> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>
> >>> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
> >>> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
> >>> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
> >>> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
> >>> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
> >>> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
> >>> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
> >>> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
> >>> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
> >>>
> >>> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
> >>> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
> >>> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
> >>> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
> >>> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
> >>> Society.
> >>>
> >>> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
> >>> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
> >>> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
> >>> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
> >>> might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
> >>> anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
> >>> describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
> >>> allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.
> >>>
> >>> *Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to the traditional
> >>> reviewing process: two-phase reviewing and "open reviews". These
> >>> changes are an effort to provide additional feedback to authors of
> >>> submitted papers and make the overall reviewing process more
> >>> transparent. Specifically, all paper submissions will receive between
> >>> 3 and 5 reviews each; while all papers will receive at least 3
> >>> reviews, papers of sufficient quality will undergo a second reviewing
> >>> phase. In addition, the camera-ready version of each accepted paper
> >>> will be accompanied by a 1-page summary that consists of the
> >>> significant portions of the (anonymized) reviews that the paper
> >>> received during the reviewing process and a 1-paragraph summary by the
> >>> authors detailing how they addressed the reviewers' comments. The
> >>> conference proceedings as well as the conference website will include
> >>> the camera-ready version of each accepted paper together with the
> >>> corresponding 1-page summary review.
> >>>
> >>> In addition to the main conference, IEEE P2P 2012 will have a poster
> >>> and demo session, and a conference best paper award.  Thanks to the
> >>> supporting organizations, P2P 2012 also plans to offer a small number
> >>> of travel grants . Application Information for these grants will be
> >>> published in the P2P'12 web site.
> >>>
> >>> ++++++++++++++++++
> >>> Important Dates
> >>> ++++++++++++++++++
> >>>
> >>>  * Abstract Submission: April 6, 2012
> >>>  * Submission Deadline: April 13, 2012
> >>>  * Notification: July 9, 2012
> >>>  * Author Registration Deadline: July 20, 2012
> >>>  * Camera-ready: July 29, 2012
> >>>  * Conference dates: September 3-5, 2012
> >>>
> >>> +++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> Contact Information
> >>> +++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>
> >>> Fabian Bustamante and John Douceur (TPC Chairs)
> >>> Email: p2p12-chairs at comsoc.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Pedro Garcia Lopez (General Chair)
> >>> Email: p2p12 at comsoc.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> Founder, The Freenet Project
> >>> Email: ian at freenetproject.org
> >>>
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