On Mar 18, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not so sure about some Storage Components implementations if it's > clearly defined by XWiki team (in theory as I suppose it will not be > possible for the hibernate store that will have to be done as Data > Model implementation first dependency) but I think at least the New > Data Model has to be done by core comitters especially because almost > all comitters will be involved in this process at some points. > > It's for me the most important XWiki work that has to be done since > I'm XWiki comitter (no so long ok ;) ) and this has to be lead by > someone who know very well XWiki internals and its history. He/she > will also have to be available when all other comiters will refactors > there respective parts/plugins of XWiki products and will ask 10 times > a day lots of "how best to ?" and "ho no we forgot that, where can we > put it ?".
... and stay as an active committers for the long run... -Vincent > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Hi Asiri, >> >> I'm personally not in favor of having those 2 ideas done as GSOC >> projects. My reasons: >> * They are the most complex possible since they are at the very heart >> of XWiki >> * They need to be done by existing committers since this is at the >> heart of xwiki and we'll need to support them on the long run >> * They are NOT standalone projects and they interact too much with >> other parts of XWiki. >> * They have not had the experience of implementing the first >> generation version and thus will not know the pitfalls and all the >> ideas that have been raised on these topics over the years >> >> In essence this means that almost any line written will need to be >> discussed at length, validated, understood by existing committers. I >> don't think it's fair to give this to a GSOC student especially as >> it'll be almost impossible for him/her to be sure of delivering >> anything. Then it would mean several mentors and that they are 100% >> available which is not going to happen. And last if they were I would >> prefer that they tackle it themselves since again this is really at >> XWiki's heart. >> >> This is my opinion only and Segiu obviously has a different one since >> he proposed these 2 projects. So first thing, we need to decide if we >> want to have them a GSOC project. >> >> What do other committers think? >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >> On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Asiri Rathnayake wrote: >> >>> Hi Vincent & All, >>> >>> This is about the above two GSoC ideas, >>> >>> I would like to know what are the deliverables for the above two >>> projects ? My guess is, >>> >>> 1. Finished Components (i think these are going to be two jar >>> files ?, i'm yet to discover plexus) >>> >>> 2. Test cases. >>> >>> 3. Current core integrated with the two components. >>> >>> 4. Anything else ? >>> >>> Since the current core doesn't follow a components based >>> architecture, what kind of complications will arise in the >>> integration phase ? >>> >>> Vincent, what about the two implementations of the data-model >>> component in the sandbox ? have you made a decision ? :) >>> >>> Your help and comments are very much appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> - Asiri >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> devs mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

