On Mar 18, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm not so sure about some Storage Components implementations if it's
> clearly defined by XWiki team (in theory as I suppose it will not be
> possible for the hibernate store that will have to be done as Data
> Model implementation first dependency) but I think at least the New
> Data Model has to be done by core comitters especially because almost
> all comitters will be involved in this process at some points.
>
> It's for me the most important XWiki work that has to be done since
> I'm XWiki comitter (no so long ok ;) ) and this has to be lead by
> someone who know very well XWiki internals and its history. He/she
> will also have to be available when all other comiters will refactors
> there respective parts/plugins of XWiki products and will ask 10 times
> a day lots of "how best to ?" and "ho no we forgot that, where can we
> put it ?".

... and stay as an active committers for the long run...

-Vincent

> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>> Hi Asiri,
>>
>> I'm personally not in favor of having those 2 ideas done as GSOC
>> projects. My reasons:
>> * They are the most complex possible since they are at the very heart
>> of XWiki
>> * They need to be done by existing committers since this is at the
>> heart of xwiki and we'll need to support them on the long run
>> * They are NOT standalone projects and they interact too much with
>> other parts of XWiki.
>> * They have not had the experience of implementing the first
>> generation version and thus will not know the pitfalls and all the
>> ideas that have been raised on these topics over the years
>>
>> In essence this means that almost any line written will need to be
>> discussed at length, validated, understood by existing committers. I
>> don't think it's fair to give this to a GSOC student especially as
>> it'll be almost impossible for him/her to be sure of delivering
>> anything. Then it would mean several mentors and that they are 100%
>> available which is not going to happen. And last if they were I would
>> prefer that they tackle it themselves since again this is really at
>> XWiki's heart.
>>
>> This is my opinion only and Segiu obviously has a different one since
>> he proposed these 2 projects. So first thing, we need to decide if we
>> want to have them a GSOC project.
>>
>> What do other committers think?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Asiri Rathnayake wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Vincent & All,
>>>
>>> This is about the above two GSoC ideas,
>>>
>>> I would like to know what are the deliverables for the above two
>>> projects ? My guess is,
>>>
>>> 1. Finished Components (i think these are going to be two jar
>>> files ?, i'm yet to discover plexus)
>>>
>>> 2. Test cases.
>>>
>>> 3. Current core integrated with the two components.
>>>
>>> 4. Anything else ?
>>>
>>> Since the current core doesn't follow a components based
>>> architecture, what kind of complications will arise in the
>>> integration phase ?
>>>
>>> Vincent, what about the two implementations of the data-model
>>> component in the sandbox ? have you made a decision ? :)
>>>
>>> Your help and comments are very much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> - Asiri
>>>
>>>
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