On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:52, Vincent Massol<[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sep 9, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 09:06, Vincent Massol<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 15:06, Thomas Mortagne<[email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 14:48, Vincent Massol<[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> With Colibri we've started to display the doc title as the >>>>>> document's >>>>>> rendered title. This is a big change that not only affects Colibri >>>>>> but >>>>>> in general the way people write documents. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's what I suggest: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Display doc titles with <div> >>>>>> 2) Display document content headers using <h1>-<h6> >>>>>> 3) Display doc titles with a larger font size than h1 (or h1 >>>>>> with a >>>>>> smaller font size) >>>>> >>>>> +1 for all (i'm not sure for div since i'm not an html expert but >>>>> the >>>>> important point is that the page title and first level headers >>>>> should >>>>> have different style for sure) >>>>> >>>>>> 4) Force cursor to be in the title field when editing a new >>>>>> document. >>>>>> Force cursor in the content field when editing an existing >>>>>> document. >>>>>> This is to make it easy using the keyboard only to enter doc >>>>>> titles >>>>>> (since it's currently dead easy, we need something close in >>>>>> easiness) >>>>>> 5) Modify all our existing skins: Toucan, Albatross, Finch and >>>>>> Dodo so >>>>>> that they use they display the doc title, similarly to Colibri >>>>> >>>>> +1, as you says it's a totally new way of seeing document content >>>>> so >>>>> it should be applied to all skins. >>>>> >>>>>> 6) Have a title compatibility flag in xwiki.cfg. When active, >>>>>> use a >>>>>> Javascript to do this: if there's no title specified for a page >>>>>> and if >>>>>> the first content is a H1 then use it as the page's title. >>>> >>>> Also this should be off by default since it's backward compatibility >>>> and a wrong behavior in a normal new wiki. >>> >>> There's one remaining problem Thomas with this: the default XAR will >>> not display properly. We would need to have 2 XARs for this to work: >>> one for backward compat and a new one, using titles. And this is a >>> pain to do IMO. >>> >>> We don't want a new user to start XE and find that all titles are >>> duplicated by default with a clean wiki he hasn't touched. >>> >>> WDYT? >> >> We are not supposed to do backward compatibility on what we are >> releasing... if XE is wrong for 2.0 it should be fixed. > > I don't agree. This would mean someone using 2.0 with Toucan couldn't > upgrade their XAR with the new stuff.
Sure if they use an old skin not made for the new rule I don't see how it would work... Don't mix everything, backward compatibility is one thing but if the rule now is that a page is supposed to have a real title and use first level header for this then the default XE should follow this rule... since it's the rule. > > -Vincent > >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>>> Is the h1 hidden in this case ? >>>>> >>>>> 7) make the toc macro start at first header level instead of second >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We need at least 1), 3), 6) to be able to release the Colibri skin >>>>>> for >>>>>> 2.0 final IMO. >>>>>> >>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> -Vincent > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
