Hello !
;-)

2009/11/12 Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]>

> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 19:24, Thibaut DEVERAUX
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > Hi thanks,
> >
> > I understand.  :-)
> >
> >
> > Well, sites use a lot a form that is completly different than the output.
> > This is not the best, I agree. Generally the reason is that the
> information
> > from a single form is redispatched in different pages.
> >
> > User understand this. The fill a form with data, and the site will use
> them
> > data to create a page.
> >
> > Yet, this can be a bit "burocratic" in the feelings. Also user get a bit
> > lost in the resulting page because they have to take new reperes. Also
> this
> > limit the feeling of "I create my page".
> >
> >
> > I prefer too versions most "in place", most "WYSIWYG". Well... Most in
> the
> > Wiki logic too.
> >
> > I think you can even do best than doubling the name as a compromise to
> make
> > it :
> >
> > http://thibaut.deveraux.free.fr/xwiki/Profil-In_place_render.png
> >
> > http://thibaut.deveraux.free.fr/xwiki/Profil-In_place_edit.png
> >
>
> Interesting concept - I am not really sure about the implementation of the
> fields inside the page's title. This is a classic "edit in place" pattern.
> Could be useful also when we are editing the page's name, content, etc. The
> problem is that this pattern isn't widely adopted inside XWiki's
> implementation.
>

You speak of using "in place" evrywhere ?
It should, lol. ^_^
More seriously, this is a mater of choice for the UX strategy. I would
recomand it, yet it is only my advice. :-)


>
> Have a nice day
> >
> > Thibaut
> >
> >
> > PS :
> >
> > /!\ Sharing the UX sources in an Open Source project /!\
> >
> > It took me more than half an hour to photoshop your renders to make my
> > proposal.
> > If I had sources I could modify quickly, it would have been 5mn.
> >
> > A simple mockup on the paper does not help enough to make a comparaison.
> > (Using feelings to drive thinking is important too)
> >
> > Yet, here, this is complicated. You use HTML to make your proposals. I'm
> > most at ease with Photoshop/Gimp/svg. So I'm not sure it would take me
> less
> > time if I get to design in HTML.
> >
>
> Since I start working for XWiki I had SVG mockups, HTML/CSS mockups or even
> partial prototypes.
> There is no "standard" format when I make mockups - it's all a matter of
> the
> complexity/time degree of the proposal and also the probability that
> someone
> else will want to modify them (this probability slightly increased in the
> past time).
>
> Cool, I understood it bad last time. :-)

Nice you use also svg. I'm using this one a lot, find it to be faster to
re-arrange, make tests, etc.


>
> > All of this does not really makes it easy open source UX collaboration. I
> > don't know what to say. You have to use the medium you are the most at
> ease
> > too, so I don't have the solution...
> >
> > At least please share your HTML files, if this is simplely a few lines to
> > change it will be faster in HTML.
> >
>
> I'll do more of that in the future. The thing with sharing HTML/CSS is that
> when you make mockups with this technologies, you don't necessarily clean
> them - since you are experimenting a lot.
>
> Lol, add a warning at the top of the file ?  ;-)
CC-BY-SA-Don'tCleanIt Liscence... Files that are not clean and should not be
cleaned because it would be a waste of time. ^_^


>  Thanks,
> Caty
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Have a nice day !
Thibaut
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