On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Anca Luca wrote:

> Hi Vincent,
> 
> On 03/15/2010 07:17 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Anca Luca wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Vincent, all
>>> 
>>> On 03/15/2010 12:15 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> We've slipped badly for the 2.3M1 release (my fault for not monitoring it 
>>>> closely enough). It was planned on the 8th of March and we're the 15th 
>>>> already (one week delay).
>>>> 
>>>> The other problem is that we don't have what we had imagined would go in 
>>>> 2.3M1 (color theme improvement for ex). Right now there are lots of 
>>>> changes but nothing really user-noticeable.
>>>> 
>>>> So I'd suggest the following:
>>>> * Delay by a few days in order to be able to include:
>>>> - color theme improvement. Sergiu you need to tell us if that's doable and 
>>>> for when.
>>>> - captcha on comments. Caleb, let us know if that's all done or if there's 
>>>> need for more testing/development.
>>>> 
>>>> Bonus:
>>>> - Anca, will it be possible to have annotations released for 2.3M1 (ie 
>>>> now)? How much more time would you need?
>>> 
>>> I'll close the vote for XWIKI-4775 asap, and commit it since it's due a long
>>> time now.
>>> I shouldn't need more than 2 days, but how would we want the annotations
>>> integrated in the platform?
>>> 
>>> Right now they're built as an extension, with some jars to deploy on the 
>>> server
>>> and a .xar to install the default annotations application.
>> 
>> I think we should:
>> * have platform/xwiki-annotations and release it when we release the plaform
>> * have applications/annotations and include it in the default XE XAR
>> 
>> The rationale is that annotations is a powerful feature and I believe it's 
>> good to have it by default for now (it would be too difficult to install it 
>> separately for now).
> 
> Why would it be difficult? we can maven magic a zip with a bunch of jars 
> anytime 
> and make people unpack it in their WEB-INF/lib & install the xar. I think 
> that's 
> reasonable complexity for such an extension.

That's what I call complex. It's too complex for a large majority of our users 
and it would make the annotation feature not used which is a shame. In any case 
I don't see any compelling reason not to bundle it by default in the default XE 
we distribute.

Thanks
-Vincent

> Thanks,
> Anca
> 
>> 
>> When we have the extension manager implemented, we'll be able to trim down 
>> the size of what the "core" platform and instead have the user be able to 
>> install extensions when they start their wiki for the first time or when 
>> they go to the admin page for this. But since we don't have this now I feel 
>> it's better to have annotations packaged in the platform and in the default 
>> XAR than not have it.
>> 
>> Here's my +1 to both (API in the platform and annotation XAR in default XE).
>> 
>> Note: It would be great to have the ability to turn on/off the annotations 
>> feature for 2.3 final.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
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