Hi Vincent, On 03/17/2010 11:44 AM, Vincent Massol wrote: > > On Mar 17, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote: > >>> Hi Jerome, >>> >>> On 03/15/2010 09:37 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote: >>>>> Hi Vincent, all >>>>> >>>>> On 03/15/2010 12:15 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> We've slipped badly for the 2.3M1 release (my fault for not monitoring >>>>>> it closely enough). It was planned on the 8th of March and we're the >>>>>> 15th already (one week delay). >>>>>> >>>>>> The other problem is that we don't have what we had imagined would go >>>>>> in >>>>>> 2.3M1 (color theme improvement for ex). Right now there are lots of >>>>>> changes but nothing really user-noticeable. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I'd suggest the following: >>>>>> * Delay by a few days in order to be able to include: >>>>>> - color theme improvement. Sergiu you need to tell us if that's doable >>>>>> and for when. >>>>>> - captcha on comments. Caleb, let us know if that's all done or if >>>>>> there's need for more testing/development. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bonus: >>>>>> - Anca, will it be possible to have annotations released for 2.3M1 (ie >>>>>> now)? How much more time would you need? >>>>> >>>>> I'll close the vote for XWIKI-4775 asap, and commit it since it's due a >>>>> long >>>>> time now. >>>>> I shouldn't need more than 2 days, but how would we want the >>>>> annotations >>>>> integrated in the platform? >>>>> >>>>> Right now they're built as an extension, with some jars to deploy on >>>>> the >>>>> server >>>>> and a .xar to install the default annotations application. >>>> >>>> Annotations JS and CSS should be moved to web/standard/ as filesystem >>>> extensions/resources (as are the other "core" UI features), not be >>>> contained in the XAR. >>> >>> Actually that's a longer refactor, to actually make the Annotations part >>> of the >>> UI / skin, instead of having this integration done in js, after the pages >>> get >>> rendered. That's if we make it a core default feature. >> >> But isn't that what we are discussing right now, making it a core feature?
yes, but I don't think it's fully decided (should send a vote asap). >> >> For me, as soon as we distribute annotations together with XE, their >> should be not a single line of JavaScript in wiki documents. >> (But that does not mean you need to rewrite everything so that more comes >> with the rendered DOM and less is injected/manipulated in JS - though I >> agree it would be nicer if the annotations would work even when there >> would be no JavaScript :) > > For me it should be packaged in the default XE but it should stay as > separate as possible from the rest, i.e. it should be possible to have a > working platform without the annotations feature. This is true for almost > everything but for technical reason we cannot always do it. > > If we can keep it separate and use skin extensions for ex rather the having > to modify existing templates, etc we should probably do that. We can keep it separate using the js and css that is currently in the extensions, for the moment. But as a general strategy, if we "integrate" them in the default platform / enterprise and it gets stable enough, I don't see why they won't be properly integrated, i.e. instead of adding the "Annotations" tab shortcut from js, put it in the vms where the others are, same for the Annotations tab, etc. However, we need to make sure we preserve the level of customizability: annotations are designed to be easily customizable, from forms and UI, to js powering functionality and all, easily *from the browser* with no filesystem access. I prefer it stays like that. However, for the moment (2.3M1), that's quite a bit of refactoring (the integration) which i'm not willing to do. So for M1 it would be either: 1/ all in xar (js, css, script documents with annotation forms) 2/ js & css in resources, script documents with annotation forms & other scripted UI in .xar My vote goes for 1/ since it's less mess. WDYT? > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> >> Jerome. >> >> >> >>> >>> Anca >>> >>>> >>>> Jerome. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Anca >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> -Vincent > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
