On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 21:33, Raluca Stavro <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hello all, > > I really like the last proposal, Caty :) > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Alex Busenius <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Caty, > > > > > > This version is really cool, just some minor comments: > > > > When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with > > allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it > > has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right > > above the right icons from the line below. > > > > The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is > > really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to > > the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just > > because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some > > people. > > > > I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right > > now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially > > to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the > > menu. > > I think that the tooltip can be added on mouse click. This would imply > adding a nice question mark instead of that small arrow, and the user > would click anywhere on the span with the class name "summary". And > another improvement would be to add more padding to the drop down > menus. Caty is currently using the secondary background color, right? > Maybe we should use the highlight color, but I'm not sure of that. > Thanks Raluca. Yes, a better solution is be to increase the padding and also use $theme.backgroundSecondaryColor (or a darker tone). The problem is that on default theme, backgroundSecondaryColor is a gray color and the contrast with the gray icon is not that good. In terms of interaction I think "hover on tooltip" and "click on arrow" for changing the rights is better. The user browse the rights to see the inheritance and see what those rights means, and when he made up his mind he clicks and change the right. There are more cases when the users is just browsing the rights, inspecting or see rights meaning, than actually change them; so the harder activity (clicking) should be put on changing the right. The small arrow is a sign that there is a menu. If the menu will appear on click, the arrow is necessary to work as an invitation and also to keep the consistency with actionMenus. Raluca, do you think we should use bigger icons, like Alex suggested? Maybe if we put enough padding and we work a bit on the contrast (backgroundSecondaryColor, highlightColor) this won't be necessary. The only advantage of another color set would be a greater space for user to click/hover (we can fix that with padding). The disadvantage is that the look&feel will be broken and also other icons will not correlate actions done in XWiki (edit, delete, comment, etc) with the corresponding rights. If the hover/click and the size of the icons are the only problem :) then is ok Thanks, Caty > > Raluca. > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Take a look at Rights 5 > >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space > >> > >> Added: > >> * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides) > >> * icons built together as a whole > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png > >> * representation of "advanced rights" with the same abstract icon, but > with > >> different color (no text; we can debate this) > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png > >> * inheritance arrow married with +/- > >> > >> IMGs (in case of browser problem) > >> - collapsed: > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png > >> - expanded: > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Caty, > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Denis, > >>>> > >>>> I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P > >>>> > >>> > >>> This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really > good > >>> proposals. > >>> I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion > is > >>> becoming to much bilateral IMO. > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Please take a look at a proposal for "V3 and my 3)" version with > elements > >>>> from Rights2 :) > >>>> > >>> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal > >>>> and in "action" > >>>> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space > >>> > >>> > >>> Really nice job ! I really appreciate. > >>> > >>> > >>>> The prototype is not reflecting the "desired" interaction: both > inherited > >>>> info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead > of > >>>> hover | click. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big > tooltips > >>> describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show > on > >>> hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). > Clicking > >>> any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu. > >>> Is it what you try ? > >>> > >>> > >> yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu. > >> > >> > > <snip> > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
