On Jun 11, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 22:50, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: >> >>> Hi Caty and all, >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> For a while we've been discussing how the new Rights Management UI is >> gonna >>>> look like. After 5 prototype versions, we may have reached a conclusion. >>>> >>>> Please take a look at: >>>> *Prototype* >>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space >>>> *Explanations* >>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/RightsProposal >>>> >>>> Please cast your vote if this is gonna be the final Rights >> representation, >>>> so that we may start the implementation. >>>> my +1 >>>> Any feedback is welcomed and we can still added improvements to this >>>> version. >>>> >>>> The current version is a collaborative work done by me, Denis Gervalle, >>>> Raluca Stavro, Alex Busenius, Roman Muntyanu and many others (Guillaume, >>>> Sergiu, Vincent, Thomas). Thanks everyone for participating in the >> process. >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> I like it. >>> >>> One question: Why does it say on Rights51Space for the view right that >> "Allowed only for evalica" when view right is also allowed for all users in >> the Admin group? >> >> Other questions: >> >> * Why does that second column says "Users"? Shouldn't it be "Users and >> Groups"? >> > > Well groups are also users at the end, but why not...
The reason I mention this is because the first column says type and then you have "users" and "groups" and not just "users". It's for consistency and I think from a user POV they're both different things. >> * Why does the extended rights view is called "advanced"? For me it's not >> related to advanced or not advanced. It's just a folded view and a full >> view. A right contributed by some extension might be as important as one of >> the default rights. >> > > Well, this is a point of view. The basic interface allow managing commons > rights, and will probably be the only view allowed for users that have not > their profile set to "Advanced" (like what is done for the edit menu, which > is only shown to advanced users) Yes this is exactly what I think is wrong. Whoever has the right to modify rights should see all rights. There shouldn't be a notion of advanced or not because additional rights are *not* advanced stuff. Actually to give an example, the programming right itself could be considered advanced while a new right such as "ability to post messages in a forum" would be a basic right. Thanks -Vincent > Right interface is complex, but access to it is also possible for simple > editors not only for admins. Those only need to manage read/write access to > their page, and those will not understand the ins and outs of the extended > rights. This is mainly why we see this as 2 different view of the same > stuff: a basic view, and an advance view. > You have a similar behavior in the right management interface of Windows > ACLs. > Note that in basic view, you have a summary icon (currently a lock, but this > should be improved) that shows if there is some advanced rights locally set. > The tooltips for this icon list the rights locally set and their allowance, > but does not allow changing them (in the sample, the allowance is not shown, > this is probably a mistake) > > Denis > > >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Caty >>>> >>>> p.s: former discussion about mocking process can be seen at [Proposal] >>>> Rights Management UI http://markmail.org/thread/zgzufskvhe6xt6ey _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

