On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:33, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Jun 11, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 22:50, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Caty and all, >>>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> For a while we've been discussing how the new Rights Management UI is >>> gonna >>>>> look like. After 5 prototype versions, we may have reached a conclusion. >>>>> >>>>> Please take a look at: >>>>> *Prototype* >>>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space >>>>> *Explanations* >>>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/RightsProposal >>>>> >>>>> Please cast your vote if this is gonna be the final Rights >>> representation, >>>>> so that we may start the implementation. >>>>> my +1 >>>>> Any feedback is welcomed and we can still added improvements to this >>>>> version. >>>>> >>>>> The current version is a collaborative work done by me, Denis Gervalle, >>>>> Raluca Stavro, Alex Busenius, Roman Muntyanu and many others (Guillaume, >>>>> Sergiu, Vincent, Thomas). Thanks everyone for participating in the >>> process. >>>> >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> I like it. >>>> >>>> One question: Why does it say on Rights51Space for the view right that >>> "Allowed only for evalica" when view right is also allowed for all users in >>> the Admin group? >>> >>> Other questions: >>> >>> * Why does that second column says "Users"? Shouldn't it be "Users and >>> Groups"? >>> >> >> Well groups are also users at the end, but why not... > > The reason I mention this is because the first column says type and then you > have "users" and "groups" and not just "users". It's for consistency and I > think from a user POV they're both different things.
I agree with Vincent here "users and group" would be a lot clearer for users. The fact that "groups are also users at the end" is pretty technical for basic user. > >>> * Why does the extended rights view is called "advanced"? For me it's not >>> related to advanced or not advanced. It's just a folded view and a full >>> view. A right contributed by some extension might be as important as one of >>> the default rights. >>> >> >> Well, this is a point of view. The basic interface allow managing commons >> rights, and will probably be the only view allowed for users that have not >> their profile set to "Advanced" (like what is done for the edit menu, which >> is only shown to advanced users) > > Yes this is exactly what I think is wrong. > > Whoever has the right to modify rights should see all rights. There shouldn't > be a notion of advanced or not because additional rights are *not* advanced > stuff. Actually to give an example, the programming right itself could be > considered advanced while a new right such as "ability to post messages in a > forum" would be a basic right. > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> Right interface is complex, but access to it is also possible for simple >> editors not only for admins. Those only need to manage read/write access to >> their page, and those will not understand the ins and outs of the extended >> rights. This is mainly why we see this as 2 different view of the same >> stuff: a basic view, and an advance view. >> You have a similar behavior in the right management interface of Windows >> ACLs. >> Note that in basic view, you have a summary icon (currently a lock, but this >> should be improved) that shows if there is some advanced rights locally set. >> The tooltips for this icon list the rights locally set and their allowance, >> but does not allow changing them (in the sample, the allowance is not shown, >> this is probably a mistake) >> >> Denis >> >> >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Caty >>>>> >>>>> p.s: former discussion about mocking process can be seen at [Proposal] >>>>> Rights Management UI http://markmail.org/thread/zgzufskvhe6xt6ey > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
