On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:59, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Caty,
>
> On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > After gathering some Action Menus feedback, we decided to go for another
> > iteration for them.
> >
> > Please give your feedback on this proposal and *cast your vote* for this
> > items (described at
> >
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2#HImprovements
> ):
> >
> > 1. New "Add" menu
>
> +1
>
> > 2. Wiki/Space/Page separation
>
> +1
>
> There are now 2 hierarchies:
> - the top level menu
> - the breadcrumb
>
> Is that a problem for users to understand what each means?
>

First of all:
- top level menu:
- will contain page names
- shows wiki/space/page hierarchy
- breadcrumb:
- will contain page titles
- shows parent/child hierarchy

Top level menu will be easier to understand for the user, because the
pattern wiki/space/page is now more widely used inside XWiki: search
results, WYSIWYG pages description ("Located in xwiki » XWiki » Admin"), new
Rights UI navigation, etc.

We use Parent/child also for tree. It will be more clear if we combine the
parent selector with the breadcrumb (like it was proposed once for the Edit
improvements).
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ImprovedEdit/cExpanded.png


>
> In addition right now it's hard to navigate back to where you were.
> Example: you navigate to a page, you realize you want to changer your user
> profile from simple user to advanced user, you click on your user make the
> change and you don't have an easy way to go back to where you were.
>

Was easier before? You can use the "Back" from browser; or hit the logo and
go Home and see Recent Changes; or use My recent modifications panel; etc.


>
> This is not related to this proposal per see but it may affect it in some
> ways. I'd suggest we tackle it later on but I just wanted to point it out to
> not forget it and to have it in mind.
>
> > 3. New "Delete" Space entry and relocation of some Page actions
>
> +1
>
> Is there a rule for deciding what page level features are moved to the top
> level menu vs the features that stay in the edit menu bar?
>

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2/page.png

The rule is:
- *page *related actions (copy, rename, delete) in the top level menu
- *content *related actions closer to the content

"Access Rights" has the similarity of Wiki/Space "Administration" and also
is a page action.


> > 4. Better Wiki/Space naming representation (WIKI: Wikiname)
>
> +1
>
> > 5. Uppercase menu usage just for top entries/labels
>
> +1
>
> > 6. "TYPE: Name" pattern
>
> +1
>
> I propose to have those in 2.5M1 if someone come forward to implement it.
> We can rediscuss this when we start the discussion re the 2.5 roadmap when
> we release the first RC of 2.4.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > Screenshots and proposal:
> >
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2
> > Partial prototype:
> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Skins/SkinMenu
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caty
> >
> > P.S. Thanks to Gregory for all opinions / ideas
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