On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:59, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Caty, >>> >>> On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> After gathering some Action Menus feedback, we decided to go for another >>>> iteration for them. >>>> >>>> Please give your feedback on this proposal and *cast your vote* for this >>>> items (described at >>>> >>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2#HImprovements >>> ): >>>> >>>> 1. New "Add" menu >>> >>> +1 >>> >>>> 2. Wiki/Space/Page separation >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> There are now 2 hierarchies: >>> - the top level menu >>> - the breadcrumb >>> >>> Is that a problem for users to understand what each means? >>> >> >> First of all: >> - top level menu: >> - will contain page names >> - shows wiki/space/page hierarchy >> - breadcrumb: >> - will contain page titles >> - shows parent/child hierarchy >> >> Top level menu will be easier to understand for the user, because the >> pattern wiki/space/page is now more widely used inside XWiki: search >> results, WYSIWYG pages description ("Located in xwiki » XWiki » Admin"), new >> Rights UI navigation, etc. >> >> We use Parent/child also for tree. It will be more clear if we combine the >> parent selector with the breadcrumb (like it was proposed once for the Edit >> improvements). >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ImprovedEdit/cExpanded.png >> >> >>> >>> In addition right now it's hard to navigate back to where you were. >>> Example: you navigate to a page, you realize you want to changer your user >>> profile from simple user to advanced user, you click on your user make the >>> change and you don't have an easy way to go back to where you were. >>> >> >> Was easier before? You can use the "Back" from browser; or hit the logo and >> go Home and see Recent Changes; or use My recent modifications panel; etc. > > No it wasn't easier before but we have the right to improve stuff.... :) > > Using the back button is really bad. You can have done actions in pages > (script executed) and you would execute it again + you'll need to go back > several levels.
and problems with forms that have been submitted. -Vincent > > My recent views panels is a solution of course but it's not integrated so I > think we need something better. > > Again this is outside the scope of this topic but close since there's some > need for rationalization between these 3 ways of nav: > - top level menu > - breadcrumb > - navigation history > > I'm just discussing this since I'd like us to think about how to improve > navigation in the future. > >>> This is not related to this proposal per see but it may affect it in some >>> ways. I'd suggest we tackle it later on but I just wanted to point it out to >>> not forget it and to have it in mind. >>> >>>> 3. New "Delete" Space entry and relocation of some Page actions >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> Is there a rule for deciding what page level features are moved to the top >>> level menu vs the features that stay in the edit menu bar? >>> >> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2/page.png >> >> The rule is: >> - *page *related actions (copy, rename, delete) in the top level menu >> - *content *related actions closer to the content >> >> "Access Rights" has the similarity of Wiki/Space "Administration" and also >> is a page action. >> >> >>>> 4. Better Wiki/Space naming representation (WIKI: Wikiname) >>> >>> +1 >>> >>>> 5. Uppercase menu usage just for top entries/labels >>> >>> +1 >>> >>>> 6. "TYPE: Name" pattern >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> I propose to have those in 2.5M1 if someone come forward to implement it. >>> We can rediscuss this when we start the discussion re the 2.5 roadmap when >>> we release the first RC of 2.4. >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>> Screenshots and proposal: >>>> >>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActionMenuProposal2 >>>> Partial prototype: >>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Skins/SkinMenu >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Caty >>>> >>>> P.S. Thanks to Gregory for all opinions / ideas _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
