On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:11, Ludovic Dubost <[email protected]> wrote:
> +1 to the proposal. > > I also agree that Application should probably there only for Admins or > Advanced Users. > > This might be true for "Create Space" also. > > We might be missing some rights here for "Create Space". This is a > long issue with the auto-creation of spaces which is allowed by XWiki, > where as long as you have edit rights on the wiki, you get space > creation rights without even necessarly having to go through the space > creation itself. This is probably another subject that we need to > handle separately. > > Right now I suggest we only show Create Space and Create Applications > to Admin AND Advanced Users. > I think users should be allowed to create their personal spaces. Also we have a problem with the notion of Space. Some people don't get at first that there are used for organizing stuff. Some think that they are used for application purposes (a space for Blog, a space for Invitation, etc). They learn that spaces contain pages in the creation process. If we gonna remove the ability to create spaces, normal users will create all their pages on Main, which I don't think is the right behavior. First because they will not see in the "Add" menu the possibility to create spaces of their own and second because they would need an admin to create for them the desired space. IMO there is nothing advanced in creating a space. Thanks, Caty > > Ludovic > > 2011/6/30 Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]>: > > Hi Caty, > > > > I like this proposal a lot. Please see my feedback below. > > > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 17:52, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> This is a proposal regarding the improvement of the Add menu in order > to: > >> - specify a template for the newly created entities (space/page); > >> - specify also applications templates; > >> - some improvements for the create page step: the ability to select an > >> existing space or create a non-existing one + position changes. > >> > >> You can see the proposal at > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/CreateMenuProposal > >> > >> The "Add" menu could contain just the entries: > >> - Page > >> - Space > >> - Application > >> > > > > Maybe "Application" should be displayed only for advanced users, WDYT? > > > > > >> In the usability interviews I had, no one used the other shortcuts > >> ('Comment > >> to page; Attachment to page'), but the interviewers were not beginners > >> users, so if someone from the community is using those shortcuts please > >> tell > >> us if you want to keep them. > >> > >> The Create Space step relates to > >> http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-6684 > >> The Create Page step relates to > http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XE-897 > >> > >> For the application homepage > >> > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ApplicationWithinMinutesProposalI2/homepage.png > >> the create action will auto-generate the page name (according to the > >> options) and will preserve the current space [1]. > >> > > > > Sounds good to me. > > > > With this proposal we can benefit from the contextual actions (for > >> applicationWithinMinutes inside the designated space) but we are not > >> dependent completely of the space, being able to create application > >> instances in an universal manner from the "Add" menu. > >> Also, the existing behavior for the wiki pages will be preserved. > >> > > > > That's cool. > > > > > >> The default option for the template + location will modify accordingly > to > >> the context where the "Add" menu was launched. > >> > >> Please provide feedback. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Caty > >> > >> [1] http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/mac6a24us4ucmp3j > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > -- > Ludovic Dubost > Founder and CEO > Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/ > XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com > Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
