On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 16:18, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
>> 
>>> Right now on an empty wiki you have all the rights except "delete"
>>> (and register).
>>> 
>>> So this means that you have "admin" right but you don't have "delete"
>> rights...
>>> 
>>> This does not make much sense and I anyway I don't see why delete has
>>> this special rule.
>> 
>> 
>>> Any idea ?
>> 
> 
> Because defaulting allow for delete on the initial template of XE will
> allow anyone to delete anything.
> We had never set right on delete explicitly.
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> Here is my +1 to remove the special handling of "delete" default right.
>> 
> 
> -1 to change that since it will open hole in many existing wikis.

Can you explain that?

The guest user has admin permissions so I don't see what could be worse than 
that.

Am I missing something?

Thanks
-Vincent

>> I don't know if there was any good reason but I can't see it.
>> 
> 
> There is probably no good reason before it was implemented this way.
> 
> 
>> So +1 to have delete rights in an empty wiki when not logged in.
>> 
>> I've created http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-7581
>> 
> 
> +0 for this, simply because it would be difficult and tricky to do in the
> current implementation.
> After we agree on merging the new experimental security module and I got
> some time to document it, I will surely open a discussion on how to evolve
> the security rights, and why the empty wiki state cause other not so
> pleasant issue. It is to early for now.
> 
> 
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> 
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