On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 16:18, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right now on an empty wiki you have all the rights except "delete"
>>>> (and register).
>>>>
>>>> So this means that you have "admin" right but you don't have "delete"
>>> rights...
>>>>
>>>> This does not make much sense and I anyway I don't see why delete has
>>>> this special rule.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Any idea ?
>>>
>>
>> Because defaulting allow for delete on the initial template of XE will
>> allow anyone to delete anything.
>> We had never set right on delete explicitly.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Here is my +1 to remove the special handling of "delete" default right.
>>>
>>
>> -1 to change that since it will open hole in many existing wikis.
>
> Can you explain that?
>
> The guest user has admin permissions so I don't see what could be worse than 
> that.
>
> Am I missing something?

Denis just mean that a lot of wikis don't set the delete right
expecting it to be false by default (that's the case in standard XE
for example).

>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>> I don't know if there was any good reason but I can't see it.
>>>
>>
>> There is probably no good reason before it was implemented this way.
>>
>>
>>> So +1 to have delete rights in an empty wiki when not logged in.
>>>
>>> I've created http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-7581
>>>
>>
>> +0 for this, simply because it would be difficult and tricky to do in the
>> current implementation.
>> After we agree on merging the new experimental security module and I got
>> some time to document it, I will surely open a discussion on how to evolve
>> the security rights, and why the empty wiki state cause other not so
>> pleasant issue. It is to early for now.
>>
>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
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