On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 06/28/2012 09:16 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi devs and Thomas, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just noticed a new commons-repository module. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could someone explain to me what is this new module and why it's not >>>>>>> >>>>>> part of xwiki-commons-extension, even though it's full of references >>>>> to >>>>> "extension" everywhere in it? (109 occurrences) >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Since Extension Manager as an module to install/manage extension in >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> has? >>>>> is? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you read the whole sentence it's actually proper english ;) (except >>>> >>> for >>> >>>> the "an module" of course). >>>> >>> >>> Sorry but it doesn't parse for me… >>> >>> You cannot have "since" and "as" just after. >>> >> >> >> >> You're trying to read it as a conjunction while it's used as a >> preposition. >> >> Though I agree the way it's written makes the sentence not really natural >> to read. >> >> Jerome >> >> > The topic is correct, but the lack of punctuation makes it harder to > parse. Try this: > > Since Extension Manager (as a module to install/manage extension in your > application) and XWiki Repository (as a platform to distribute extensions) > are very different technically, and are starting to be > pretty big, Marius and me decided to separated them in two different > modules. > > But that is besides the point, grammar flame wars are not welcome on this > list. > Yes you're right. I reacted because I perceived Vincent's initial remark as harsh on Thomas (not because of the remark itself, but because it was doubled) ; and since it was in fact grammatically correct, I though it was particularly uncalled for. My bad Jerome > I agree with Thomas that the two should be separated, since they serve > different purposes. But I also agree with Vincent that cyclic dependencies > are a big blocker. Still, I don't think there are any real cycles, since > such a cycle would have caused the build to fail even when the modules were > together under the same parent. > > > >> I don't really care if it's good English or not…. All I care is to >>> understand what Thomas is trying to explain :) >>> >>> I'll assume it means: >>> >>> " >>> Extension Manager is a module to install/manage extension in your >>> application and XWiki Repository is a platform to distribute extensions. >>> Since both are very different technically and they are starting to be >>> pretty big, Marius and I decided to separated them in two different >>> modules >>> " >>> >>> In this case both are handling extensions which is the common point and >>> thus I'd expect to see a xwiki-commons-extension module that only deals >>> with what an Extension is and then have xwiki-commons-extensionmanager >>> that >>> installs /manager extensions. >>> >>> Otherwise you've just created a cyclic dependencies: >>> * commons-repository needs the concept of extension defined in >>> commons-extension and commons-extension uses commons-repository >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>> >>>> Jerome >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> your application and XWiki Repository as a platform to distribute >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> has? >>>>> is? >>>>> >>>>> extensions are very different technically and are starting to be >>>>>> pretty big Marius and me decided to separated them in two different >>>>>> modules. The main link between them is that Extension Manager has a >>>>>> handler for this kind of repositories exactly like it has one for >>>>>> maven repositories (and more later). It makes easier to manage them >>>>>> separately in UI tests, Jira,etc. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry but I don't really understand what you mean. >>>>> >>>>> Can you give me a use case where someone would use commons-repository >>>>> alone (without xwiki-extension)? >>>>> >>>>> I don't understand why it's a problem to have >>>>> xwiki-commons-extension/xwiki-**commons-extension-repository/ and >>>>> what it >>>>> changes for ui tests, jira, etc >>>>> >>>>> I also see we have >>>>> xwiki-commons-extension/xwiki-**commons-extension-**repositories/ >>>>> what are >>>>> those compared to xwiki-commons-repository? >>>>> >>>>> Also xwiki-commons-repository-api is pretty empty… It has a class which >>>>> >>>> is >>> >>>> about REST and which should probably be in a REST module and there's >>>>> another one which is an interface with no methods. >>>>> >>>>> I really don't see the point of a separate top module in commons. I'm >>>>> probably missing something. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent >>>>> >>>>> Note1: Its description in pom.xml is pretty vague: >>>>>>> <description>XWiki Commons - Repository</description> >>>>>>> In commons-repository-api it's even worse: >>>>>>> <description>Contains commons stuff to use in a a client or a server >>>>>>> >>>>>> implementation</description> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Note2: On >>>>>>> http://commons.xwiki.org/**xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome<http://commons.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome>it's >>>>>>> >>>>>> not described either, nor on e.x.o >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I just finished the refactoring on git yesterday... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>> >>>>>> > -- > Sergiu Dumitriu > http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/**mailman/listinfo/devs<http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs> > -- Jérôme Velociter Winesquare http://www.winesquare.net/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
