On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's also about New Year's Eve. A lot o people usually take time off during
> that period, as you probably know, and will not be available for releases
> (stabilization, bugxifing, testfixing, etc).
> 
> IMO, we should either pick a date that is between Christmas and New Year's
> Eve (though I don`t see much success in that either), or just release
> around them, like +/- 1 week or something, that's if we don`t want to
> promise stuff and end up delaying due to lack of people to fix release
> issues.

That's what I've tried to do:
* M1 before christmas
* RC1 after christmas (one week after)
* Final after new year's eve (one week after)

That was the best dates I was able to find unless we want to postpone by 1 
month more…

If you can think of better dates please suggest them.

> Note: I am not familiar with how previous year releases around the holidays
> worked out so, if, based on experience, you still consider that it's still
> a good idea, please ignore my comments.

It's probably a bit chaotic but I feel it's better than postponing by 1 month 
altogether, especially since want to be able to start the 5.x cycle ASAP (we're 
all eager to start it :)) and also to slowly align it to the beginning of the 
year.

Thanks
-Vincent

> Thanks,
> Eduard
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi devs,
>>>> 
>>>> 4.4 and 4.5 are the last 2 stabilization releases for the 4.x cycle. As
>>>> such they are meant to be short releases (1 month per release) and the
>> idea
>>>> is to have:
>>>> - 4.4: December
>>>> - 4.5: January
>>>> 
>>>> This will allow us to start working on 5.0 at the beginning of February.
>>>> 
>>>> Thus for 4.4 (and 4.5) I propose to work on the following stabilizations
>>>> (we shouldn't work on new features):
>>>> 
>>>> * AWM stabilization. Assignee: Marius
>>>> ** Remove the i18n hack and use the new localization module to create a
>>>> translation bundle for the application
>>>> ** Add new field types (for page, image and attachment at least, with
>>>> pickers)
>>>> ** Improve the title and content fields (e.g. prevent dragging more than
>>>> one title or content field)
>>>> 
>>>> * Extension Manager. Specifically we still need to able to
>> install/upgrade
>>>> a wiki farm in a few minutes. Assignee: Thomas/Marius
>>>> ** XWIKI-8252: Migration from an older version will cause many merge
>>>> conflicts with the Distribution Manager
>>>> ** XWIKI-8443: When uninstalling a XAR extension a question should be
>>>> asked for various conflict use cases
>>>> ** Find a way to allow having each wiki admin doing upgrade instead of
>>>> upgrading the whole farm by a farm admin which don't always know how to
>> fix
>>>> conflict like in myxwiki.org for example
>>>> ** XWIKI-8173 (EM should not allow installing package exposing an
>>>> installed feature)
>>>> 
>>>> * Translation module stabilizations/improvements. Assignee: Thomas
>>>> ** XWIKI-8263 (Allow providing translations in a jar extension).
>>>> 
>>>> * SOLR improvements: we need to continue working on it and we can decide
>>>> in the course of 4.4/4.5 if it's good enough to be made the default
>> search
>>>> or if we need to wait for 5.x to make it the default. Assignee: Edy
>>>> 
>>>> * Usability: small usability improvements. Assignee: Caty/JV. Caty/JV,
>>>> could you please list what you'd like to work on?
>>>> 
>>>> * Workspace bug fixes (there are some raised by Anca for example).
>>>> Assignee: Edy
>>>> 
>>>> * And a lot of bug fixes. Manuel reported a lot of browsers issue for IE
>>>> that we need to fix
>>>> 
>>>> Anything else committers/contributors would like to work on for 4.4?
>>>> 
>>>> Dates
>>>> =====
>>>> 
>>>> 4.4M1: 17 Dec
>>>> 4.4RC1: 31 Dec
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Are we sure this is a realistic date?
>> 
>> I don't understand what you mean. Because of Christmas? I already
>> mentioned that I gave it one more week as we usually do because of this.
>> 
>>> I think we should reconsider this
>>> now, instead of (almost certainly) delaying it on the spot, and looking
>> bad.
>> 
>> Any date is a good date. Even one week from now is good date. You just
>> need to adjust what you're going to tackle during the timeframe that's all
>> (that's called timeboxing).
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eduard
>>> 
>>> 4.4Final: 7 January
>>>> 
>>>> Note that I'd have normally put RC1 on 24th but since that's the
>> Christmas
>>>> holidays, I've given RC1 2 weeks instead.
>>>> 
>>>> Can everyone review what I've put tentatively and tell me if it's ok?
>> Also
>>>> could you create the associated JIRA issues and reply to this email with
>>>> them so that I can prepare the roadmap page on xwiki.org?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>> -Vincent
>>>> 
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