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On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:30 PM, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 11/27/2012 06:26 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
> >> On Nov 27, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's also about New Year's Eve. A lot o people usually take time off
> during
> >>> that period, as you probably know, and will not be available for
> releases
> >>> (stabilization, bugxifing, testfixing, etc).
> >>>
> >>> IMO, we should either pick a date that is between Christmas and New
> Year's
> >>> Eve (though I don`t see much success in that either), or just release
> >>> around them, like +/- 1 week or something, that's if we don`t want to
> >>> promise stuff and end up delaying due to lack of people to fix release
> >>> issues.
> >> That's what I've tried to do:
> >> * M1 before christmas
> >> * RC1 after christmas (one week after)
> >> * Final after new year's eve (one week after)
> >>
> >> That was the best dates I was able to find unless we want to postpone
> by 1 month more…
> >>
> >> If you can think of better dates please suggest them.
> >
> > I agree with Eduard that between Xmas and NYE would be better than the
> 31th.
> >
> > If I were to be the RM, I'm would be more likely to prefer releasing RC1
> on the 27th/28th or 29th rather than on the 31th.
>
> ah indeed you're right, I had missed that :)
>
> So new dates:
>
> * 4.4M1: 10th of December (in 2 week from now)
> * 4.4RC1: 17th of December
> * 4.4Final: 27th of December (between Xmas and NY)
>
> Thanks!
> -Vincent
>
> > Jerome.
> >
> >>
> >>> Note: I am not familiar with how previous year releases around the
> holidays
> >>> worked out so, if, based on experience, you still consider that it's
> still
> >>> a good idea, please ignore my comments.
> >> It's probably a bit chaotic but I feel it's better than postponing by 1
> month altogether, especially since want to be able to start the 5.x cycle
> ASAP (we're all eager to start it :)) and also to slowly align it to the
> beginning of the year.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> -Vincent
> >>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Eduard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 27, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi devs,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 4.4 and 4.5 are the last 2 stabilization releases for the 4.x
> cycle. As
> >>>>>> such they are meant to be short releases (1 month per release) and
> the
> >>>> idea
> >>>>>> is to have:
> >>>>>> - 4.4: December
> >>>>>> - 4.5: January
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This will allow us to start working on 5.0 at the beginning of
> February.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thus for 4.4 (and 4.5) I propose to work on the following
> stabilizations
> >>>>>> (we shouldn't work on new features):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * AWM stabilization. Assignee: Marius
> >>>>>> ** Remove the i18n hack and use the new localization module to
> create a
> >>>>>> translation bundle for the application
> >>>>>> ** Add new field types (for page, image and attachment at least,
> with
> >>>>>> pickers)
> >>>>>> ** Improve the title and content fields (e.g. prevent dragging more
> than
> >>>>>> one title or content field)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * Extension Manager. Specifically we still need to able to
> >>>> install/upgrade
> >>>>>> a wiki farm in a few minutes. Assignee: Thomas/Marius
> >>>>>> ** XWIKI-8252: Migration from an older version will cause many merge
> >>>>>> conflicts with the Distribution Manager
> >>>>>> ** XWIKI-8443: When uninstalling a XAR extension a question should
> be
> >>>>>> asked for various conflict use cases
> >>>>>> ** Find a way to allow having each wiki admin doing upgrade instead
> of
> >>>>>> upgrading the whole farm by a farm admin which don't always know
> how to
> >>>> fix
> >>>>>> conflict like in myxwiki.org for example
> >>>>>> ** XWIKI-8173 (EM should not allow installing package exposing an
> >>>>>> installed feature)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * Translation module stabilizations/improvements. Assignee: Thomas
> >>>>>> ** XWIKI-8263 (Allow providing translations in a jar extension).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * SOLR improvements: we need to continue working on it and we can
> decide
> >>>>>> in the course of 4.4/4.5 if it's good enough to be made the default
> >>>> search
> >>>>>> or if we need to wait for 5.x to make it the default. Assignee: Edy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * Usability: small usability improvements. Assignee: Caty/JV.
> Caty/JV,
> >>>>>> could you please list what you'd like to work on?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * Workspace bug fixes (there are some raised by Anca for example).
> >>>>>> Assignee: Edy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * And a lot of bug fixes. Manuel reported a lot of browsers issue
> for IE
> >>>>>> that we need to fix
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anything else committers/contributors would like to work on for 4.4?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dates
> >>>>>> =====
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 4.4M1: 17 Dec
> >>>>>> 4.4RC1: 31 Dec
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Are we sure this is a realistic date?
> >>>> I don't understand what you mean. Because of Christmas? I already
> >>>> mentioned that I gave it one more week as we usually do because of
> this.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I think we should reconsider this
> >>>>> now, instead of (almost certainly) delaying it on the spot, and
> looking
> >>>> bad.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any date is a good date. Even one week from now is good date. You just
> >>>> need to adjust what you're going to tackle during the timeframe
> that's all
> >>>> (that's called timeboxing).
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> -Vincent
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Eduard
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4.4Final: 7 January
> >>>>>> Note that I'd have normally put RC1 on 24th but since that's the
> >>>> Christmas
> >>>>>> holidays, I've given RC1 2 weeks instead.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can everyone review what I've put tentatively and tell me if it's
> ok?
> >>>> Also
> >>>>>> could you create the associated JIRA issues and reply to this email
> with
> >>>>>> them so that I can prepare the roadmap page on xwiki.org?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks a lot
> >>>>>> -Vincent
>
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