Hi Denis and all, On May 17, 2013, at 12:20 AM, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Vincent, > > > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi devs, >> >> Now that the virtual mode is on by default our users are having troubles >> when they install 5.0.1. >> It's the second time in 2 days that I have to help someone. >> >> The issue is that users will want to use URLs such: >> http://myhost/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome >> >> And those URLs don't work anymore by default (which can be seen as a >> regression). >> >> So I'm proposing the following change for 5.0.2/5.1M1: >> * If there's only 1 wiki configured then always point to the main wiki. >> >> WDYT? >> > > This has already been discussed. I was in favor of that behavior, but > Edouard mention a potential confusing example in: > http://markmail.org/message/ggjgqlfubjfyfxto > > So, what has been decided is to provide a more explicit message, and what I > have suggested is to have an easy way for an admin to create the missing > server descriptor when that error occurs. > > You should read the thread about this change in detail before proposing a > new solution. Thanks for pointing me to this thread which I hadn't read at the time. I've now read it and I see that nothing was done on this point that you raised (as item 3) in that thread). Eduard said that it could be a problem for someone having 2 wikis and removing 1 and then all URLs would redirect to that main wiki instead of noticing that the wiki he's pointing to has been removed. The difference with now and when that thread was written is the feedback we're getting from users trying XWiki 5.0+. We already have some user who have stopped using XWiki because they found it too complex to setup with this new virtual on by default and some others who spent hours scratching their heads to figure out why something worked before and is no longer working. So I really think we need to do something and quite fast (for 5.0.2 and 5.1M1). Solution 1: ========= Check if there's only 1 wiki and default to the main wiki whatever the URL in that case. It's still preferable to get a user started on xwiki and more important than the use case found by Edy which is an edge case. Solution 2: ========= Since the default config is path-based, stop fallbacking to domain-based when no descriptor is found and always fallback to the main wiki instead. This option should solve the problem of getting started for users and at the same time not have the problem raised by Edy. The only downside would be users who had configured their subwiki in path-based (default) but with domains, which is not the normal way anyway: they should configure it in domain-based if they wish to use domains... My preference goes to 2. WDYT? Any other solution? Thanks -Vincent PS: The reason I suddenly took interest in this topic is because: * I've helped several users understand why they couldn't access their wiki in 1 week (I can think of 3) * I've recoded the new wiki descriptor module and updated the new url module to handle subwiki aliases and this recoded this algorithm. I'll be committing this soon now (just finishing some functional tests) _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
