Another solution would be to support IE8 only for Colibri and to make Flamingo support IE9+.
Thanks, Caty On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote: > 2014-03-11 17:11 GMT+01:00 Denis Gervalle <[email protected]>: > > > I should agree with Vincent. The reason IE8 is still in use is mostly > > because it is the latest MS browser for Windows XP. I know that XP will > be > > EoL very soon, but while MS has taken that decision, the current market > > share of Windows XP is still quite large. I hope the EoL will speed up a > > bit the migration process, but not enough for dropping IE8 now. > > It could be a project for the 7.x release if the regression of IE8 is > > confirmed. > > > > While it requires a bit of adaptation, bootstrap 3 support IE8, so I do > not > > see why we would need to stop supporting IE8 for the new skin. Obviously, > > the design under IE8 will be a bit degraded. Supporting IE8 does not > > prevent us from using latest HTML5/CSS3 features, if IE8 degrade nicely. > > And there is no real need to be responsive on IE8, since no mobile device > > use it. > > > > Just for your information: > > IE8 cannot degrade nicely without Respond.js. Because without media > queries, it will use the "mobile first" version of bootstrap, which means > that everything will be displayed like if they were on a mobile phone. > > Anyway, if we can integrate Respond.js too, it is not a problem anymore. > > Louis-Marie > > > > > > So I am currently -1 for this change. > > > > Thanks, > > > > PS: I am far more concerned by the JS conflict issue we have between > > Bootstrap, JQuery and Prototype. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM, [email protected] <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > -0 at this stage from me. IMO we need to first question our xwiki > users > > > and do a more thorough survey to understand who's using XWiki with IE8 > > and > > > how they'd feel if we dropped support for it. > > > > > > According to > > > > http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-monthly-201309-201402-bar, > > > IE8 is one of the top IE versions used by users so it seems a bit early > > to > > > take a decision right now about this. > > > > > > Since XWiki is an Enterprise software it's all the more important to > > > verify that Enterprises are ready to drop IE8 before taking that > decision > > > IMO. > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Vincent > > > On 11 Mar 2014 at 15:13:04, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ( > [email protected] > > ) > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi devs, > > > > > > This mail is about voting to drop support for IE8 in 6.x cycle. > > > > > > The issue is more complicated, since according to our 'Browser Support > > > Strategy' [1] we are supporting IE8, IE9 and the latest versions of FF, > > > Chrome (+ Safari5). > > > > > > IE8 was released in March 2009 (4 years ago) > > > IE9 - March 2011 (2 years ago) > > > IE10 - Sept 2012 (17 months ago) > > > IE11 - Oct 2013 (4 month ago) > > > > > > With the release of IE11 some companies also dropped their support for > > IE9, > > > so we should also adjust our support strategy by supporting newer > > browsers > > > (IE10, IE11) and dropping the support for old ones (IE8, IE9). > > > > > > According to Statcounter for the last 6 month period > > > > > > http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-monthly-201309-201402-barthe > > > most popular IE browsers are IE10 (8.48%) and IE8 (7.98%). > > > > > > While the market share is not neglectable there is something you need > to > > > consider: > > > In 6.x we want to add a new skin: Flamingo. Ideally this skin should be > > > responsive. In order to assure responsiveness we need media query > > support. > > > IE8 doesn't has support for media query natively, we would need > > Respond.js > > > [2] to enable it. > > > While this solution exist, 6.x will be ready at the end of 2014 when I > > > suspect the market share for IE8 will drop. > > > > > > Additional to not having media query support, there are other CSS3 > > > properties and HTML5 elements that are not fully supported by IE8 > > > (border-radius, box-shadow, transition, etc.). > > > > > > This is my +1 to drop support for IE8 in 6.x > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Caty > > > > > > [1] > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy > > > [2] https://github.com/scottjehl/Respond > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Denis Gervalle > > SOFTEC sa - CEO > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
