Hi Vincent

2014-06-02 8:49 GMT+02:00 [email protected] <[email protected]>:

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> On 29 May 2014 at 11:23:01, Marius Dumitru Florea (
> [email protected](mailto:[email protected]))
> wrote:
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> > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
> > wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > In Flamingo, we have created the concept of Application Bar, that we
> have
> > > implemented as a Panel:
> > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10254
> > >
> > > I propose to put the Application Bar by default on the left column.
> > >
> > > Since we do not have a configuration system at the skin level, it
> would be
> > > present for both Colibri & Flamingo. I think it is not a problem
> because I
> > > have managed to make it look good for both (except for the size of the
> > > icons) :
> > > http://jira.xwiki.org/secure/attachment/27707/appbar.png
> > >
> >
> > > WDYT?
> >
> > It doesn't look very well, and the Applications panel is redundant. I
> > don't have a solution though. Need to think about it.
>
> Note that Guillaume forgot to mention that the icons will be larger (see
> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Skin4x/homepageDesktopDetails.png).
> Right now they are the ones from the panel in medium width mode because
> Guillaume has implemented it yet.
>
> @Guillaume: regarding icon colors, what would be your plan? Blue and white
> colors as on
> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Skin4x/homepageDesktopDetails.png
> even for the Colibri skin or different coloring depending on the skin?
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>
There, we need to find a nice alternative of Silk for Flamingo.


> I also think that it might be best to not change Colibri since people are
> probably used to it for now. Now we need to find a way to have panels
> defined differently for each skin for that.
>

If people have already customized their panels, an upgrade will not
overwrite their settings.


>
> There are various solutions for this:
> * Solution 1: Add support for storing configuration (XWikiPreferences) in
> skin pages and modify the DefaultConfigurationSource to be profile > skin >
> space > wiki or possibly better: profile > space > wiki > skin


I dislike this idea. Not only because it is hard to represent from an UI
point of view, but also because it is complicated from a user point of
view. It is already complicated to understand what happens when there are
rights set everywhere in pages, spaces and wikis, and I don't think it is
good to have the same problem on configuration.

If you want to have the App Bar only in flamingo, then maybe it is the role
of a flavor to propose pre-configured settings, not the role of Flamingo to
overwrite the configuration of the wiki.


> * Solution 2: Refactor the UI configuration in the Admin UI by moving all
> UI-related configuration parameters in some UIConfig xobjects that depend
> on the selected skin (one xobject per skin). Make the skin selection the
> first item on the page and when you change it the rest of the UI
> configuration below reflects the content of the UIConfig page corresponding
> to that skin. This means introduction a UIConfigurationSource component
> impl but that’s easy to do.
> * Solution 3: Modify the leftpanels/rightpanels configuration properties
> from String to TextArea and allow scripting to be put inside. Then, by
> default, have some “if” to handle both Colibri and Flaming default panels.
> When the user uses the Panel Wizard the first time, the value will be
> overridden by the list of panels selected by the user.
>

I'm not fan of it but I prefer this one.


> * Solution 4: In the DefaultSkin page, override
> leftpanels.vm/leftpanels.vm and check if the user has defined any panel
> preferences in XWikiPreferences. If so, then use them. If not, then compute
> the left and right panels default values.
>

This one too.


>
> There are obviously downsides to all these solutions...
>
> Personally I think I prefer solution 1 with profile > space > wiki > skin,
> i.e. if the leftpanels/rightpanels xproperties are not defined at the
> profile, space, wiki levels (and by default we should leave it empty there)
> then the value is taken from the skin configuration component. We would
> need to define how the Panel Wizard works (we probably have an issue even
> now when the panels are defined in a user’s profile). It should probably be
> possible int he Panel Wizard UI to select what level is being configured
> (wiki, space, profile, skin). That’s the main issue for which we need a
> solution: that it is not too magical for the user when they go to the Panel
> Wizard. More generally speaking a we have an issue in the Admin UI. We
> should probably show the inferred values (real value used) and indicate the
> value for a given property at all levels (wiki, space, profile, skin) and
> allow users to easily change the value for the level they wish.
>
> We need some more brainstorming about this. Any other ideas or variations?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Guillaume
>
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Thanks,
Guillaume
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