+1 to try it out. Thanks, Marius
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi devs, > > Reviving this thread since I`ve stumbled upon this again while looking for > Fundry alternatives after a user asked on IRC for ways to donate to the > XWiki project. > > The stats [1] on this website look promising and, since the vote was > positive on this matter, I suggest we go ahead and install the JIRA plugin > [2] that adds the link to sponsor an issue. > > While going again through the website`s documentation, it`s very clear that > this is not a way to sponsor the project, but only to sponsor particular > issues and the developer that implements them. This way we have no issues > with the lack of an XWiki foundation for receiving money, since it's the > particular dev that gets the money. > > Also, this is not a complete solution to the sponsorship/donations issue, > as other solutions can be implemented along side it (e.g. actually donating > to the project, maybe through a foundation), but it is IMO a good first > step into accepting financial contributions from the community. > > As an added bonus, since contrib projects can use XWiki's jira as well, > this means that contrib projects can also benefit from this and have > sponsored issues. > > Thanks, > Eduard > > ---------- > [1] https://freedomsponsors.org/stats/ > [2] https://github.com/freedomsponsors/freedomsponsors-jira-plugin > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From Vincent's link[1], I see that this is intended, as it is actually the >> system's philosophy which is OK in theory, but it is also obvious that it >> can be abused. >> >> "Once the issue is officially solved the sponsors can verify whether their >> problem is really gone (according to the established criteria) and pay the >> developer - otherwise they can just walk away. >> >> *This is very important*: there is nothing on the system forcing anybody >> to pay anything. There are no escrows and no pre-paid credits whatsoever. >> This is not an implementation detail – it’s by philosophy. >> >> The whole thing is *voluntary* to begin with. We want sponsors to pay the >> developers because they feel grateful for their work, tipically after their >> problem is actually solved." >> >> Of course, if they did try to handle this issue technically, it would have >> been pretty complex to decide when the task was complete according to the >> sponsor's intention and established criteria. I guess they preferred to >> have a (hypothetical) frustrated dev that was expecting a payoff for an >> issue rather than having a (hypothetical) frustrated sponsor that payed for >> something that was not quite what he wanted :) >> >> Anyway, I still think it would not hurt to try it and see how it goes. >> >> Thanks, >> Eduard >> >> ---------- >> [1] http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/ >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ludovic Dubost <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Isn't there a control mecanism once the person ready to fix it says "start >>> working on it" ? >>> At that point if the site does not block the money then it's risky >>> >>> Ludovic >>> >>> >>> 2013/3/5 Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> >>> >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > Yes, I really like the fact that it's integrated with jira and that >>> > everything is contextualized. >>> > >>> > However, I am a bit reserved about the success it is going to have, >>> since, >>> > AFAIU, there is nothing stopping people from spam-funding issues they >>> want >>> > fixed, but in the end decide that they are not going to fund any of the >>> > work that has been done. Hope that will not be the case and that devs >>> will >>> > be aware of this possibility and will primarily do it for the fun :) >>> > >>> > Anyway, I like the idea and I`m definitely +1 for trying it out. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Eduard >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>> [email protected] >>> > > >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > This seams very similar to Sergiu's ideas some time ago when we >>> tried >>> > > > with Fundry. >>> > > >>> > > Indeed, the idea is the same but the implementation different and I >>> think >>> > > the link from the jira issue can make a difference. >>> > > >>> > > Thanks >>> > > -Vincent >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Thanks, >>> > > > Caty >>> > > > >>> > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Thomas Mortagne >>> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected] >>> > >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Thomas Mortagne < >>> > [email protected]> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>>> Looks interesting. >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> But who get the money exactly ? >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> Anyone who implements what's asked. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> +1 then >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> See http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/ for details. >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> -Vincent >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>>> Can contributors be assigned to issues >>> > > >>>> or is it only for the project itself (in that case it's not >>> going to >>> > > >>>> be very simple since we don't have any entity yet) ? >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Vincent Massol < >>> [email protected]> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>>>> Hi devs, >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> WDYT of doing like Jenkins is doing and adding a "Sponsor this >>> > > issue" button on JIRA? >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> For example: >>> > > >>>>> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-9030 >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> When you click it redirects to >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>> > >>> http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/login/?next=/core/issue/sponsor%3FtrackerURL%3Dhttps%3A//issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-9030 >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> You can check >>> > > >>>>> http://www.freedomsponsors.org/ >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> It could be interesting to try it and see how it goes. >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> WDYT? >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> Thanks >>> > > >>>>> -Vincent >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> > > >>> devs mailing list >>> > > >>> [email protected] >>> > > >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> -- >>> > > >> Thomas Mortagne >>> > > >> _______________________________________________ >>> > > >> devs mailing list >>> > > >> [email protected] >>> > > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > devs mailing list >>> > > > [email protected] >>> > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > devs mailing list >>> > > [email protected] >>> > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > devs mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ludovic Dubost >>> Founder and CEO >>> Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/ >>> XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com >>> Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost >>> _______________________________________________ >>> devs mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
