On 2 Feb 2016 at 17:18:06, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
> For the record, a research about crowdfunding sites at
> https://snowdrift.coop/p/snowdrift/w/en/othercrowdfunding done by the
> Snowdrift.coop people (we went to their presentation at FOSDEM2016)
What’s the conclusion for us? :)
Thanks
-Vincent
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote:
>
> > Updated again the Contributing page for better visibility:
> >
> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing#HSponsoringissues
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eduard
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Eduard Moraru
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Thanks to Vincent, we have installed the Jira plugin and we should be
> > good
> > > to go.
> > >
> > > Issues on jira.xiwki.org now have a "Sponsor This!" section and a link
> > to
> > > start sponsoring that issue.
> > >
> > > The only downside is that instead of having 1 XWiki project for all
> > > issues, we have 1 project for each Jira project on jira.xwiki.org. This
> > > means that, as issue will be sponsores/promoted, we`ll start seeing XWiki
> > > Platform [1], XWiki Enterprise, XWiki Commons, etc... as different
> > projects
> > > on the FreedomSponsors.org website. Also, every contrib project will have
> > > their own FreedomSponsors.org project, just like they do on
> > jira.xwiki.org
> > > (e.g. Poll Application [2] for which we proposed an issue as a test).
> > > However, if you want to look for all xwiki related issues on
> > > FreedomSponsors.org, you can use the search feature (look for "xwiki")
> > [3]
> > > and it will work (match) because all projects (including contrib ones)
> > have
> > > the same issue tracker URL base (jira.xwiki.org) and official site (
> > > xwiki.org).
> > >
> > > I have also updated the Contributing [4] page and listed the sponsoring
> > of
> > > issues as an option there, under the Testing section.
> > >
> > > Let's see how this goes and don`t hesitate to try an promote this
> > wherever
> > > possible ;)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Eduard
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > [1] https://freedomsponsors.org/project/276/
> > > [2] https://freedomsponsors.org/project/277/
> > > [3] https://freedomsponsors.org/search/?s=xwiki
> > > [4] http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing#HTesting
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1 to try it out.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Marius
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Eduard Moraru
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Hi devs,
> > >> >
> > >> > Reviving this thread since I`ve stumbled upon this again while looking
> > >> for
> > >> > Fundry alternatives after a user asked on IRC for ways to donate to
> > the
> > >> > XWiki project.
> > >> >
> > >> > The stats [1] on this website look promising and, since the vote was
> > >> > positive on this matter, I suggest we go ahead and install the JIRA
> > >> plugin
> > >> > [2] that adds the link to sponsor an issue.
> > >> >
> > >> > While going again through the website`s documentation, it`s very clear
> > >> that
> > >> > this is not a way to sponsor the project, but only to sponsor
> > particular
> > >> > issues and the developer that implements them. This way we have no
> > >> issues
> > >> > with the lack of an XWiki foundation for receiving money, since it's
> > the
> > >> > particular dev that gets the money.
> > >> >
> > >> > Also, this is not a complete solution to the sponsorship/donations
> > >> issue,
> > >> > as other solutions can be implemented along side it (e.g. actually
> > >> donating
> > >> > to the project, maybe through a foundation), but it is IMO a good
> > first
> > >> > step into accepting financial contributions from the community.
> > >> >
> > >> > As an added bonus, since contrib projects can use XWiki's jira as
> > well,
> > >> > this means that contrib projects can also benefit from this and have
> > >> > sponsored issues.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Eduard
> > >> >
> > >> > ----------
> > >> > [1] https://freedomsponsors.org/stats/
> > >> > [2] https://github.com/freedomsponsors/freedomsponsors-jira-plugin
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Eduard Moraru
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> From Vincent's link[1], I see that this is intended, as it is
> > actually
> > >> the
> > >> >> system's philosophy which is OK in theory, but it is also obvious
> > that
> > >> it
> > >> >> can be abused.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Once the issue is officially solved the sponsors can verify whether
> > >> their
> > >> >> problem is really gone (according to the established criteria) and
> > pay
> > >> the
> > >> >> developer - otherwise they can just walk away.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> *This is very important*: there is nothing on the system forcing
> > >> anybody
> > >> >> to pay anything. There are no escrows and no pre-paid credits
> > >> whatsoever.
> > >> >> This is not an implementation detail – it’s by philosophy.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The whole thing is *voluntary* to begin with. We want sponsors to pay
> > >> the
> > >> >> developers because they feel grateful for their work, tipically after
> > >> their
> > >> >> problem is actually solved."
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Of course, if they did try to handle this issue technically, it would
> > >> have
> > >> >> been pretty complex to decide when the task was complete according to
> > >> the
> > >> >> sponsor's intention and established criteria. I guess they preferred
> > to
> > >> >> have a (hypothetical) frustrated dev that was expecting a payoff for
> > an
> > >> >> issue rather than having a (hypothetical) frustrated sponsor that
> > >> payed for
> > >> >> something that was not quite what he wanted :)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Anyway, I still think it would not hurt to try it and see how it
> > goes.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> Eduard
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ----------
> > >> >> [1] http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ludovic Dubost
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Isn't there a control mecanism once the person ready to fix it says
> > >> "start
> > >> >>> working on it" ?
> > >> >>> At that point if the site does not block the money then it's risky
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Ludovic
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> 2013/3/5 Eduard Moraru
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> > Hi,
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > Yes, I really like the fact that it's integrated with jira and
> > that
> > >> >>> > everything is contextualized.
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > However, I am a bit reserved about the success it is going to
> > have,
> > >> >>> since,
> > >> >>> > AFAIU, there is nothing stopping people from spam-funding issues
> > >> they
> > >> >>> want
> > >> >>> > fixed, but in the end decide that they are not going to fund any
> > of
> > >> the
> > >> >>> > work that has been done. Hope that will not be the case and that
> > >> devs
> > >> >>> will
> > >> >>> > be aware of this possibility and will primarily do it for the fun
> > :)
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > Anyway, I like the idea and I`m definitely +1 for trying it out.
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > Thanks,
> > >> >>> > Eduard
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Vincent Massol <
> > [email protected]>
> > >> >>> wrote:
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> > > On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > >> >>> [email protected]
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> > > wrote:
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> > > > This seams very similar to Sergiu's ideas some time ago when
> > we
> > >> >>> tried
> > >> >>> > > > with Fundry.
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> > > Indeed, the idea is the same but the implementation different
> > and
> > >> I
> > >> >>> think
> > >> >>> > > the link from the jira issue can make a difference.
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> > > Thanks
> > >> >>> > > -Vincent
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> > > >
> > >> >>> > > > Thanks,
> > >> >>> > > > Caty
> > >> >>> > > >
> > >> >>> > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Thomas Mortagne
> > >> >>> > > > wrote:
> > >> >>> > > >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Vincent Massol <
> > >> [email protected]
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > > wrote:
> > >> >>> > > >>>
> > >> >>> > > >>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Thomas Mortagne <
> > >> >>> > [email protected]>
> > >> >>> > > wrote:
> > >> >>> > > >>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>> Looks interesting.
> > >> >>> > > >>>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>> But who get the money exactly ?
> > >> >>> > > >>>
> > >> >>> > > >>> Anyone who implements what's asked.
> > >> >>> > > >>
> > >> >>> > > >> +1 then
> > >> >>> > > >>
> > >> >>> > > >>>
> > >> >>> > > >>> See http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/ for details.
> > >> >>> > > >>>
> > >> >>> > > >>> -Vincent
> > >> >>> > > >>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>> Can contributors be assigned to issues
> > >> >>> > > >>>> or is it only for the project itself (in that case it's not
> > >> >>> going to
> > >> >>> > > >>>> be very simple since we don't have any entity yet) ?
> > >> >>> > > >>>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Vincent Massol <
> > >> >>> [email protected]>
> > >> >>> > > wrote:
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> Hi devs,
> > >> >>> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> WDYT of doing like Jenkins is doing and adding a "Sponsor
> > >> this
> > >> >>> > > issue" button on JIRA?
> > >> >>> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> For example:
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-9030
> > >> >>> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> When you click it redirects to
> > >> >>> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>>
> > >>
> > http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/login/?next=/core/issue/sponsor%3FtrackerURL%3Dhttps%3A//issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-9030
> > >> >>> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> You can check
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> http://www.freedomsponsors.org/
> > >> >>> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> It could be interesting to try it and see how it goes.
> > >> >>> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> WDYT?
> > >> >>> > > >>>>>
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> Thanks
> > >> >>> > > >>>>> -Vincent
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