On 17 Sep 2014 at 08:57:35, Denis Gervalle
(d...@softec.lu(mailto:d...@softec.lu)) wrote:
> Well, there is also another way to tackle that problem, which is to make
> the HomePage easily configurable.
> I have never understand why the home should be Main.WebHome, which does not
> seems meaningful, in particular in french. Even the Main space is weird,
> imagine a Hand space in english ;) (WebHome could also seen weird, while
> being more usual words that I feel hurt less, and could be ommitted).
>
> So, back on track, why not having an easy way to say, "set current page as
> the HomePage", and to in fact use the Dashboard itself as the default
> WebHome ?
> Why the hell should we have to destroy some interface to have a different
> home page ?
>
> WDYT ?
Denis, this is essentially what my Home Page Application does.
But it doesn’t solve the main problem: editing the home page when it’s the
dashboard!
And it doesn’t solve the issue of the explanation of the concepts.
And it doesn’t invite the user to modify the home page when it’s a dashboard.
Thanks
-Vincent
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:52 PM, vinc...@massol.net
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 16 Sep 2014 at 15:47:59, Marius Dumitru Florea (
> > mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com))
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We won't have the activity stream on the home page by default. This is
> > > an important change. I can't decide yet..
> >
> > Yes I know…
> >
> > Now we could decide to still have it on the home page. We haven’t decided
> > the content for that new home page yet.
> >
> > However adding it may intimidate users from editing the page since they
> > might be worried about loosing that feature. But it could also be made
> > clear that the Wiki’s Activity is available from the Dashboard.
> >
> > The instructions explaining that the page can be edited could even give an
> > example about how to include the Dashboard page for those who want to make
> > the home page a dashboard.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, vinc...@massol.net wrote:
> > > > Hi devs,
> > > >
> > > > As you know I started working on a Home Page Application, see:
> > > > - JIRA with screenshots: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10586
> > > > - Discussion thread: http://markmail.org/message/ghelufamwucog46x
> > > >
> > > > I have it all done locally but I refrained from committing it because
> > on the email thread some expressed their doubts.
> > > >
> > > > I started thinking about it and I expressed some idea in the thread
> > started by Caty about "Wiki - Space - Page concepts pitch":
> > http://markmail.org/message/jefze7nvprz36pkw
> > > >
> > > > I’m pasting it here again for discussion (with some edits):
> > > >
> > > > "
> > > > BTW concerning the home page, I’m more and more leaning towards
> > removing the dashboard from it (it’s accessible from the App panel anyway)
> > and instead have it contain:
> > > > - explanation about how the wiki is organized (wikis, spaces, pages)
> > > > - explanation about base concepts (editing, saving, etc)
> > > > - encourage the user to edit this home page to make it his own and put
> > the content he wishes instead
> > > >
> > > > I think this would solve the following issues:
> > > > - users always want to customize the home page and this makes it easy
> > (it’s a standard page, no dashboard). This is also a way for them to take
> > ownership of the wiki as theirs.
> > > > - explains the main concepts of wiki, space, page
> > > >
> > > > Of course, we also need to provide a navigation panel for easy
> > navigation in the wiki/spaces/pages.
> > > > “
> > > >
> > > > If we agree about the idea of removing the dashboard and instead have
> > a simple page then we’ll need to discuss the exact content and for that I’m
> > proposing to discuss with Caty/GuillaumeD and make a proposal for further
> > discussion. Of course any idea in reply to this email would also be much
> > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > But first things first! We first need to decide if this is a good idea
> > or not.
> > > >
> > > > WDYT?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > -Vincent
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