On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Jeremie BOUSQUET
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2014-09-16 15:23 GMT+02:00 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> As you know I started working on a Home Page Application, see:
>> - JIRA with screenshots: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10586
>> - Discussion thread: http://markmail.org/message/ghelufamwucog46x
>>
>> I have it all done locally but I refrained from committing it because on
>> the email thread some expressed their doubts.
>>
>> I started thinking about it and I expressed some idea in the thread
>> started by Caty about "Wiki - Space - Page concepts pitch":
>> http://markmail.org/message/jefze7nvprz36pkw
>>
>> I’m pasting it here again for discussion (with some edits):
>>
>> "
>> BTW concerning the home page, I’m more and more leaning towards removing
>> the dashboard from it (it’s accessible from the App panel anyway) and
>> instead have it contain:
>> - explanation about how the wiki is organized (wikis, spaces, pages)
>> - explanation about base concepts (editing, saving, etc)
>> - encourage the user to edit this home page to make it his own and put the
>> content he wishes instead
>>
>

> Some idea: what can be seen more and more (on HTC Sense, in many Android
> apps, etc), is that the first time you (or anyone) access a page /
> resource, you get indications and explanations displayed in a layer above
> the content.
> Once you have read them, you close them in order to access the content, or
> if there are, more explanations are displayed. You could also have an
> option to display them again later, like a wizard.
> I think it would maybe fit with xwiki, I can imagine some arrows and text
> drawn on top of a page, showing to the user how and where are the menus,
> explaining what's a page, space, wiki, etc. I've never really seen this in
> a browser though, so technically it's maybe difficult or impossible.

See http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWiki5Minutes
. I know some people that have used
http://usablica.github.io/intro.js/ , but there are others,
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/GuideJS .

>
> It could fit also because those explanations, for a user, are transient.
> Once you know the concepts, you don't need them displayed each time you
> access the wiki, on the home page.
> But as not all users have the same background, you may want to leave them
> for new comers. If you can detect that a user is "new", you can display
> this information only to those who need it, and leave "real" content on the
> home page (like, a dashboard, a description of what your site is about, or
> both, or something else).
>
> I also like the idea of choosing your home page (the app you did), but
> maybe it would be more "xwiki" to allow choosing this page in preferences.
> - In WebPreferences of a space, you can override the default home page of
> the space ("Space.WebHome"), only with pages from that Space
> - in a wiki preferences, you can override the default home page of the
> wiki, only with pages from the "Main" space
>
>
>>
>> I think this would solve the following issues:
>> - users always want to customize the home page and this makes it easy
>> (it’s a standard page, no dashboard). This is also a way for them to take
>> ownership of the wiki as theirs.
>> - explains the main concepts of wiki, space, page
>>
>> Of course, we also need to provide a navigation panel for easy navigation
>> in the wiki/spaces/pages.
>> “
>>
>> If we agree about the idea of removing the dashboard and instead have a
>> simple page then we’ll need to discuss the exact content and for that I’m
>> proposing to discuss with Caty/GuillaumeD and make a proposal for further
>> discussion. Of course any idea in reply to this email would also be much
>> appreciated.
>>
>> But first things first! We first need to decide if this is a good idea or
>> not.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
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