On 2 Oct 2014 at 11:06:00, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau 
([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:

> Hi.
>  
> I have done the "test-on-my-wife" thing :)
>  
> She finds it more intuitive to add a page from the current page, so in the
> current location, instead of the "black bar that gives the impression of
> not beeing a part of that page" (that she did not manage to find by
> herself).
>  
> I then explained that the buttons inside the page only concern the actions
> that you can do on that page, meanwhile adding a new page should be put in
> an other location. She did not like this logic :)

So with this logic we should remove the top bar completely and move all actions 
inside the page, i.e. have only 1 menu inside the page. Because if she couldn’t 
find the Add button there she also wouldn’t be able to find all wiki-related 
actions, space-related actions and more importantly **page-related** actions 
like copy page, rename page or delete page…

Also would be fun to ask your wife to try using Confluence and see if she fails 
to create a page there too.

Thanks
-Vincent

> Users' logic and developer's logic are not the same. I like the current
> location too, except that we should propose "create page" before "create
> wiki".
>  
> I really would like to have some feedback of normal users, with the 2
> proposals. We, as developers, are not good at making things that look
> simple for other people, so we should not take this decision alone.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> --
> Guillaume Delhumeau
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