In theory the proposal sounds good, although it increases the process rules
and number of organizations, etc.
We still have things to figure out, but it looks ok +1

Thanks,
Caty

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]>
wrote:

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> On 4 Dec 2014 at 10:28:43, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (
> [email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > 2014-12-03 15:57 GMT+01:00 [email protected] :
> >
> > > Hi committers (and devs in general),
> > >
> > > I’m submitting to you this idea, to try to improve the xwiki open
> source
> > > project and to give it a new dynamism. I believe the topics discussed
> below
> > > are made even more important since we’re soon going to develop the
> notion
> > > of flavors in XWiki.
> > >
> > > Note that this proposal obsoletes the
> > > http://markmail.org/message/4hglttljiio5v2km proposal (i.e. the move
> of
> > > some extensions in the xwiki github organization), which itself was
> > > obsoleting http://markmail.org/message/ppw2slpgqou2ihai
> > >
> > > Issues to solve
> > > ===============
> > >
> > > * The scope of the code maintained by the XWiki Dev Team (== the xwiki
> > > github organization) is increasing but the team stays relatively small
> > > * The more stuff we move into the repos of the xwiki github
> organization,
> > > the less easy it is for non-“XWiki Dev Team” committers to participate
> and
> > > we want more contributions
> > >
> > > Proposed solution
> > > =================
> > >
> > > Executive summary:
> > > * Reduce the scope of all the code located in the xwiki github
> > > organization by only keeping “core” modules
> > > * A “core" module is defined by being a generic transversal module
> (i.e.
> > > that can be used in lots of XWiki flavors, if not all). This is
> opposed to
> > > “vertical” modules which are modules specific of a usage of XWiki.
> > > ** Examples of “core" modules: logging module, configuration module,
> > > distribution wizard, statistics application, annotations, active
> installs,
> > > one base flavor (the “XWiki” flavor), etc
> > > ** Example of “vertical” modules: meeting manager application, blog
> > > application, FAQ application, flavors (except the base flavor), etc
> > >
> > > Some consequences:
> > > * We need a new location for several modules that would go out of the
> > > xwiki github organization repos
> > > * It would be good to separate sandbox extensions from 1st class
> > > extensions that are maintained and developed following best practices.
> We
> > > need some way to maintain the quality of important extensions
> > >
> > > Detailed Implementation:
> > > * The “xwiki” github organization’s description becomes “XWiki Core”
> (it’s
> > > too complex to rename the org to “xwiki-core” IMO)
> > > * “XWiki Dev Team” becomes the “XWiki Core Team” (and committers in
> there
> > > are called “XWiki Core Committers”).
> > > * “xwiki-contrib” is split into 2 github organizations (technically we
> > > rename it to “xwiki-contrib-sandbox”):
> > > ** “xwiki-contrib-sandbox” (or “xwiki-incubator”), where newly proposed
> > > extensions or abandoned extensions are located
> > >
> >
> > I prefer xwiki-contrib-incubator because the "sandbox" name gives me the
> > impression of projects that are not serious. I would not like to create a
> > project in a "sandbox", but I would be OK to put it in an "incubator”.
>
> There’s just 2 problems with “incubator”:
>
> 1) we’re going to not have any place to put our extensions/modules that
> are no longer supported… And I’d rather not create another org just for
> that…
> 2) incubator means that it’s a transient location and that the goal is
> always to go in xwiki-contrib-extensions while “sandbox” is more neutral.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > > ** “xwiki-contrib-extensions”, where maintained extensions are located.
> > > * These 2 organizations are commonly referred to as “XWiki Contrib"
> > > * Same as now, anyone requesting a repo in xwiki-contrib-sandbox would
> be
> > > granted one and he/she’d be given write access to all repos in the
> > > xwiki-contrib-sandbox organization.
> > > * We define some rules for graduating from xwiki-contrib-sandbox to
> > > xwiki-contrib-extensions. For example:
> > > ** The extension should have been in xwiki-contrib-sandbox at least 6
> > > months (this gives time to see if the extension is maintained during
> that
> > > time and will survive the test of time - most extensions will die in
> the
> > > first months)
> > > ** The extension should have had more than 2 releases and be published
> on
> > > extensions.xwiki.org(http://extensions.xwiki.org) with documentation
> > > ** The extension should work with the latest LTS version of XWiki + the
> > > latest stable version of XWiki (right now that would be 5.4.5 + 6.3).
> Note
> > > that if the extension has to use new API it’s ok that it doesn’t work
> on
> > > the latest LTS.
> > > ** Generally follow the practices defined at http://dev.xwiki.org
> > > * Each extension in xwiki-extensions has a leader/maintainer. He/she’s
> the
> > > one proposing to move the extension from xwiki-sandbox to
> xwiki-extensions.
> > > He/she’s responsible for ensuring that the extension gets regular
> releases
> > > and is maintained in general. He/she defines initially the list of
> > > committers in his email proposal for moving the extension.
> > > * We create a PMC (Project Management Committee) for XWiki Contrib,
> > > generally in charge of both xwiki-contrib-sandbox and
> > > xwiki-contrib-extensions (voting new extensions in
> > > xwiki-contrib-extensions, vote new PMC members, etc). To bootstrap it,
> I
> > > would send a mail on devs@ asking who’s interested to be part of this
> > > committee. I expect some core committers + some contrib committers to
> stand
> > > up.
> > > * Contrib extensions keep using the org.xwiki.contrib package name and
> > > groupid as currently defined at http://contrib.xwiki.org
> > >
> > > Note: The idea is that xwiki core is developed as a team maintaining
> all
> > > code in there, xwiki contrib is developed extension by extension (each
> > > extension is an island). This allows anyone to propose extensions in
> XWiki
> > > Contrib without the need for everyone to support them.
> > >
> > > WDYT?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Vincent
> > >
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> > >
> >
> > +1 for the proposal.
> >
> > --
> > Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected])
> > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> > Committer on the XWiki.org project
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