On my side I don't think we really need a rule on this. It's just good
to know about new stuff, thanks.

Also I'm not a big fan of adding a dependency just for that (but it's
just a -0).

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:54 AM, vinc...@massol.net <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
> Thanks a lot for your replies.
>
> My opinion:
>
> * I didn’t know the “precision” issue pointed out by Denis so thanks about 
> that and indeed it can be a problem in some cases
> * I made this proposal only because ExpectedException is part of JUnit and I 
> thought it was the new best practice
> * I don’t like too much introducing a third-party library because it makes 
> our tests non-standard (i.e. if you only know JUnit you’ll also need to 
> understand that other library) and I don’t think the complexity introduced by 
> a new library outweights the gains in this case. But it everyone feels 
> strongly about introducing a new lib, I’m ok too.
> * I’m perfectly fine to continue using our try/catch idiom.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>
> On 15 Jan 2015 at 10:48:19, Eduard Moraru 
> (enygma2...@gmail.com(mailto:enygma2...@gmail.com)) wrote:
>
>> A nice review on the various ways of testing for exceptions:
>> http://blog.codeleak.pl/2013/07/3-ways-of-handling-exceptions-in-junit.html
>> (also talks about and links to a getting started post on catch-exception).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eduard
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Eduard Moraru
>> wrote:
>>
>> > +0, leaning to -0, mainly due to the lack of precision that could cause
>> > some not very obvious to debug test failures.
>> >
>> > What about this: https://code.google.com/p/catch-exception/ ?
>> >
>> > It seems to have a very flexible syntax and you don`t have (AFAICS) the
>> > drawback/issues pointed out by Denis.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Eduard
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
>> > mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> +1, although defining expectations is more like JMock than Mockito
>> >> with respect to code style. I guess there's no way to verify the
>> >> exception after invoking the component under test.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Marius
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:51 PM, vinc...@massol.net
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi devs,
>> >> >
>> >> > I’d like to propose that we use the strategy described at
>> >> https://github.com/junit-team/junit/wiki/Exception-testing (thanks to
>> >> Lyes for pointing out this page to me).
>> >> >
>> >> > For example:
>> >> >
>> >> > @Test
>> >> > public void sendSynchronousWithErrors() throws Exception
>> >> > {
>> >> > ...
>> >> > this.thrown.expect(MessagingException.class);
>> >> > this.thrown.expectMessage("Some messages have failed to be sent
>> >> for the following reasons: "
>> >> > +
>> >> "[[[errorsummary1],[errordescription1]][[errorsummary2],[errordescription2]]]");
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> this.mocker.getComponentUnderTest().send(Arrays.asList(message), session);
>> >> > }
>> >> >
>> >> > I feel it’s slightly better than our current idiom based on try/catch.
>> >> One advantage is that we cannot forget to put the fail().
>> >> >
>> >> > WDYT?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > -Vincent
>> >> >
>> >> >
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