As an end-user, I mainly used LT to *find* elements (usually a document) and therefore, as a developer, I always used LT to provide a tool for end-users to access elements. In order for them to find these elements, either you display the data and then the end-user try to find what he's looking for (the way LT works today) or you provide a search engine (these filters we talked about).
What do you think? LT is more a *find* tool or a *display* tool? On 02/07/2015 11:41, [email protected] wrote: > > > On 2 Jul 2015 at 11:37:49, Jean SIMARD > ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > >> Filters seems a good idea. >> >> For example, I'm pretty sure I've almost never used this livetable >> without typing something into the search fields of one of the columns. >> It means that first I'm filtering, and then I'm browsing. Therefore, >> filtering the tree view first and then browse as a tree would be pretty >> in line with this workflow. It indeed means that you don't display data >> (author and date mainly) but you filter on them. > > But the main point of LT in general is to display these data! :) > > Ok maybe you were talking about a tree *only* for this page, while I’m > talking about LT in general for all use cases. > > If you don’t display them you loose the rationale and you loose the > ability to decide on what to filter too… > >> But of course, I'm aware that the work on trees may be more complex, >> more difficult to do. So livetable could be considered as a viable >> temporary solution (let's choose one of the solution that doesn't imply >> a lot of work in this case ^^). > > I don’t see it as temporary, at least not till someone proposes > something better :) > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> On 02/07/2015 11:17, [email protected] wrote: >> > >> > On 2 Jul 2015 at 11:06:42, Jean SIMARD >> > ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote: >> > >> >> Nice work. >> >> >> >> However, something stroke me when reading that, why do we still want >> >> livetable with nested? The tree seems the best way to represent >> >> hierarchical structure of documents (as you say in sol4) so I'm not > sure >> >> to understand the real reason to try to keep a livetable and not >> >> completely drop it and focus on tree view. OK, that is my opinion. >> > >> > That’s an interesting idea but how do you present data (the other >> > columns) in a tree view, with filters? >> > >> > Thanks >> > -Vincent >> > >> >> Now, to talk about your proposition, I guess sol2 or sol3 are fine (I >> >> would go more for sol3). >> >> >> >> For another solution, maybe you could mixin sol3 with a bit of sol1. >> >> Let me explain. Use Sol3 but instead of displaying only parent, display >> >> the minify breadcrumb. And fall back to "only parent" on mobile with a >> >> small icon next to it to display the complete path in a popup or >> >> something similar (or use this icon on every device and forget about >> >> minify breadcrumb). Don't know if it makes sense. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 02/07/2015 00:04, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > I've added some ideas on how to display 'Space' column in the >> > AllDocs page: >> >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/NestedLivetable >> >> > >> >> > Let me know what you think and if there are other ideas. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > Caty -- Jean Simard [email protected] Research engineer at XWiki SAS http://www.xwiki.com Committer on the XWiki.org project http://www.xwiki.org _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

