On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Sorry for jumping in late on this one, but has I have probably already
> mentioned in the issue, I really find inappropriate not to have a quickly
> look on whether you are watching the current page or not (no matter if you
> watch it directly or indirectly). So, IMO, the watch icon should show up
> outside of the menu, and resume you watch state. It is both a action and a
> state, and IMO it deserver a better place in the UI.
>
> Obviously, if you add that the proposal 1.3, it gonna make a lot of menu,
> and I would say too much.
>


> Am I alone concerned by the important of pushing that watch feature in a
> better place ?
>

I agree we should see the "watch" state without any additional clicks.


>
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Results for now:
> >
> > 1.1: -0 (me), -1 (Jean), -1 (Yacine)
> > 1.2: +1 (me), -0 (Jean), +1 (Caty), +1 (Yacine)
> > 1.3: 0 (me), +1 (Jean), +0 (Yacine), +1 (Guillaume Lerouge).
> >
> > So 1.1 is out.
> >
> > We still have 1.2 = 2 (me and Caty are the only binding votes) and 1.3 =
> 1
> > (Jean is only the binding vote).
> >
> > It's a bit short to take a decision. Please vote!
> >
> >
> > 2015-10-05 16:18 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
> > [email protected]>:
> >
> > > For the record, the users that don't have delete and admin right on
> > > the current document (i.e. the users that are neither administrators
> > > nor the creator of the current document), which is the most common use
> > > case I think, will have only the Copy entry in the Actions menu with
> > > 1.2. In other words, most of the users will see a menu with only one
> > > entry.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marius
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > > > With 7.2, the content menus have changed a lot. The pain point is
> that
> > we
> > > > have a too much crowded "more actions" menu.
> > > >
> > > > Some discussions have already been done on this jira issue:
> > > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12587
> > > >
> > > > Caty have created a design page to re-organize the menus:
> > > >
> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/NestedMenuReorganization
> > > >
> > > > I'm in favor of the solution 1.2.
> > > >
> > > > So:
> > > >
> > > > * -0 for solution 1.1 since the viewers are not what we use the most
> > > > (thanks to the extra tabs on the bottom) and it gives them too much
> > > > importance
> > > > * +1 for solution 1.2, even if we might encounter some difficulties
> > > saying
> > > > if an item is a base action or an advanced one.
> > > >
> > > > * 0 for option A (too much clicks), but on the other hand I don't
> have
> > an
> > > > alternative to propose.
> > > > * +1 for option B. The jira issue is already created (
> > > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12636) and I think nobody would
> be
> > > > opposed to this.
> > > > * +0 for option C. The browser already have this ability, and yes, it
> > > > implies the hiding of the panels (thanks to some CSS we have).
> > However, I
> > > > remember a client using this feature for a convoluted use-case:
> > include a
> > > > light wiki page in an other website via an iframe. Anyway, we could
> > still
> > > > keep the viewer but remove the link.
> > > > * +1 for D. I know that security through obscurity is not the best,
> but
> > > it
> > > > disturbs me to let an access to the source code of any wiki page,
> > > including
> > > > not-well-done applications created by users.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Guillaume
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> > > > Committer on the XWiki.org project
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