Hi Caty,

On 17 Feb 2016 at 17:43:48, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) 
([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:

> Hi Vincent,
>  
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:11 PM, [email protected]  
> wrote:
>  
> > Hi Caty,
> >
> > On 17 Feb 2016 at 14:51:07, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) ([email protected]
> > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This proposal wants to improve the current documentation page we have at:
> > >
> > http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/InstallationStandalone
> > > in order to be more easy to be followed by beginner users.
> >
> > Actually your proposal goes beyond changing that page. It also touches a
> > lot of what’s on
> > http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation.
> >
> > > The proposal is here:
> > >
> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOrgInstallationLocal
> >
> > Thanks for working on this! :)
> >
> > Some comments/questions:
> >
> > * You haven’t explained the wording “Local Installation” but I happen to
> > have discussed it with you and AFAIR the goal is to also offer Cloud-based
> > solutions too (myxwiki.org, companies offering cloud instances, etc). So
> > I guess the idea is to have “Local Installation” and “Cloud-based
> > Installation”? There are also other terminologies used such as
> > “On-premises”, “SAAS”. What is best?
> >
>  
> This proposal doesn't tackle any of the things you mentioned. This only
> wants to change the information presented on the
> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/InstallationStandalone
> page.

Yes but it's not correct. You mentioned “Local Installation”. If you replace 
"Local Installation" by “Standalone Installation” (i.e. HSQLDB/Jetty) then it’s 
correct.

> If you go to the Download page, in the "Installation Help" column, the EXE,
> JAR and ZIP list the InstallationStandalone page.

Yes but that page is not about Local installations ;)

> > * You’re missing several packagings in the Local Installation: the WAR
> > packaging, the Debian packaging, the yaourt one, etc. Actually the 3 you’ve
> > listed are not about Local installation, they’re about providing a
> > HSQLDB/Jetty setup (This is missing from the description you’ve used, only
> > the third one mentions it when they’re all about HSQLDB/Jetty - Also it
> > should be mentioned that they should be used for trials/tests and not for
> > production).
> >
>  
> The Download page layout is covered by
> http://markmail.org/thread/6wgmvwxl6h6pvogr

Ok will read & respond on that thread later on too!

> > * Some suggestion for the various packaging names:
> > ** “Generic Graphical Installer”. For all OSes. Note that this is NOT
> > reserved for non-windows OSes, as mentioned.
> > ** “Windows Graphical Installer”. Reserved for Windows.
> > ** “Generic ZIP Installer”. For all OSes.
>  
> I've used the current text on
> http://enterprise.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download , but sure we can
> improve it.
>  
>  
> >
> > * I see there’s a link on “XWiki version”. Where does that lead to?
> >
>  
> That lead to the Download page.

ah ok, that’s wasn’t clear to me… maybe we need to make that more clear.

Thanks
-Vincent

> > * Where would you put the other links that are on
> > http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation, namely:
> > ** the tutorials
> > ** the troubleshooting
> >
>  
> I guess they should still stay where they are, on AdminGuide/Installation
> page. I don't want to crowd this page and try to keep it as simple and
> straightforward as possible.
>  
> Thanks,
> Caty
>  
>  
> >
> > Thanks!
> > -Vincent
> >
> >
> > > Let me know what you think.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Caty
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