> On 08 Jun 2016, at 14:34, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 08 Jun 2016, at 13:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Votes so far:
>> +1 (Marius), +1 (Edy), +1 (GD), +1 (Caty), +1 (Caleb)
> 
> I definitely agree to have the tour in XWiki 8.2. Note that I’ve already said 
> so and this is not a vote mail: this is a proposal. You keep asking for votes 
> but you send proposals; IMO you should send [VOTE] emails if you want votes, 
> otherwise it’s just about giving opinions/remarks/etc, saying you like it or 
> not, etc.
> 
>> Vincent and Caleb had some remarks that I hope I gave an answer why I would
>> not change them in this version.
> 
> Yes and I don’t agree with all of your explanations. I certainly don’t agree 
> that we shouldn’t show/explain that there’s a tree in the breadcrumb.

And thus, that it’s a key feature to navigate (up and down).

Thanks
-Vincent

> Thanks
> -Vincent
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Caty
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I like it too. Can't wait to see it on xwiki :)
>>> 
>>> 2016-06-02 17:55 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 02 Jun 2016, at 17:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Excellent !  This is what people really need.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some suggestions which you might adopt if you like them (but don't let
>>>> me
>>>>>> get in the way of you doing great stuff).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> "In the next couple of minutes you will discover your wiki's interface
>>>> and
>>>>>> basic functionalities."
>>>>>> Should point to an icon somewhere (in the applications section?) which
>>>>>> will start the tour and then
>>>>>> it says "Take a the XWiki Tour. Or you can close this window and then
>>>>>> click here to take the tour later."
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a Tooltip at the bottom of the page from where you can launch
>>>> the
>>>>> Tour anytime you want. Also the Tour's homepage can launch tours.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> "The breadcrumbs allow you to identify where your page is located and
>>>>>> navigate *up* the hierarchy."
>>>>>> UP the hirearchy
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can also go 'DOWN' if you are in a nested node.
>>>> 
>>>> You mean “reference” mode (which is the default).
>>>> 
>>>>> Not sure why we should
>>>>> explicitly say up. Especially since we are in the Home page, which in
>>>>> theory is the first node.
>>>> 
>>>> We do need to explain that he can click the arrow and get a sibling +
>>>> children view. I’d put a screenshot example in the step of doing that.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
>>>> 
>>>>> 3.
>>>>>> -"The current panels allow you to access your wiki's applications and
>>>>>> pages."
>>>>>> +"Access the applications in your wiki, administrators can install
>>> more
>>>>>> and customize which ones appear"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 4.
>>>>>> -"edit, create, administer or delete pages"
>>>>>> +"edit, create, delete or change permissions on pages"
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We've used the order of appearance in the content menu. But I've heard
>>>> this
>>>>> comment at least 3 times. Maybe we could change the order.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>> "The <hamburgermenu> button, opens a Drawer which contains wiki
>>> related
>>>>>> actions, like Administration and Indexes."
>>>>>> Please please please tell users this is where they need to go to
>>> login,
>>>>>> actually we might need to make login more obvious
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If they installed with EM they are already logged-in. Lots of other
>>>>> applications provide the log-in function inside the Drawer, but the
>>>>> findability indeed could be problematic for some users.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Caty
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think we're ready for this to be in production ASAP so lets say with
>>>> or
>>>>>> without these cosmetic changes
>>>>>> this is a huge benefit and very important.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Big +1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Caleb
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 02/06/16 16:51, Alexandru Cotiuga wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This proposal is about implementing a tour guide for the Homepage of
>>>> the
>>>>>>> main wiki.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is the prototype:
>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/HomepageTour/Prototype/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Feedback is welcomed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Alex and Caty
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