On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > On 08 Jun 2016, at 14:34, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 08 Jun 2016, at 13:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Votes so far:
> >> +1 (Marius), +1 (Edy), +1 (GD), +1 (Caty), +1 (Caleb)
> >
> > I definitely agree to have the tour in XWiki 8.2.


This agreement was not explicit.


> Note that I’ve already said so and this is not a vote mail: this is a
> proposal. You keep asking for votes but you send proposals; IMO you should
> send [VOTE] emails if you want votes, otherwise it’s just about giving
> opinions/remarks/etc, saying you like it or not, etc.
>
>
> >> Vincent and Caleb had some remarks that I hope I gave an answer why I
> would
> >> not change them in this version.
> >
> > Yes and I don’t agree with all of your explanations. I certainly don’t
> agree that we shouldn’t show/explain that there’s a tree in the breadcrumb.
>
> And thus, that it’s a key feature to navigate (up and down).
>

It would be helpful if you could provide the proposal text for the
Breadcrumb step.

Thanks,
Caty



>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Caty
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I like it too. Can't wait to see it on xwiki :)
> >>>
> >>> 2016-06-02 17:55 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 02 Jun 2016, at 17:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> [email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Excellent !  This is what people really need.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Some suggestions which you might adopt if you like them (but don't
> let
> >>>> me
> >>>>>> get in the way of you doing great stuff).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1.
> >>>>>> "In the next couple of minutes you will discover your wiki's
> interface
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> basic functionalities."
> >>>>>> Should point to an icon somewhere (in the applications section?)
> which
> >>>>>> will start the tour and then
> >>>>>> it says "Take a the XWiki Tour. Or you can close this window and
> then
> >>>>>> click here to take the tour later."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is a Tooltip at the bottom of the page from where you can
> launch
> >>>> the
> >>>>> Tour anytime you want. Also the Tour's homepage can launch tours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2.
> >>>>>> "The breadcrumbs allow you to identify where your page is located
> and
> >>>>>> navigate *up* the hierarchy."
> >>>>>> UP the hirearchy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can also go 'DOWN' if you are in a nested node.
> >>>>
> >>>> You mean “reference” mode (which is the default).
> >>>>
> >>>>> Not sure why we should
> >>>>> explicitly say up. Especially since we are in the Home page, which in
> >>>>> theory is the first node.
> >>>>
> >>>> We do need to explain that he can click the arrow and get a sibling +
> >>>> children view. I’d put a screenshot example in the step of doing that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> -Vincent
> >>>>
> >>>>> 3.
> >>>>>> -"The current panels allow you to access your wiki's applications
> and
> >>>>>> pages."
> >>>>>> +"Access the applications in your wiki, administrators can install
> >>> more
> >>>>>> and customize which ones appear"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 4.
> >>>>>> -"edit, create, administer or delete pages"
> >>>>>> +"edit, create, delete or change permissions on pages"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We've used the order of appearance in the content menu. But I've
> heard
> >>>> this
> >>>>> comment at least 3 times. Maybe we could change the order.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 5.
> >>>>>> "The <hamburgermenu> button, opens a Drawer which contains wiki
> >>> related
> >>>>>> actions, like Administration and Indexes."
> >>>>>> Please please please tell users this is where they need to go to
> >>> login,
> >>>>>> actually we might need to make login more obvious
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If they installed with EM they are already logged-in. Lots of other
> >>>>> applications provide the log-in function inside the Drawer, but the
> >>>>> findability indeed could be problematic for some users.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Caty
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think we're ready for this to be in production ASAP so lets say
> with
> >>>> or
> >>>>>> without these cosmetic changes
> >>>>>> this is a huge benefit and very important.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Big +1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Caleb
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 02/06/16 16:51, Alexandru Cotiuga wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This proposal is about implementing a tour guide for the Homepage
> of
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> main wiki.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is the prototype:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/HomepageTour/Prototype/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Feedback is welcomed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Alex and Caty
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