On 11/09/16 19:21, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Thomas,

On 11 Sep 2016, at 17:16, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:

Are those jetty/hsqldb or WAR sizes ?

I’ve used 
http://snippets.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Size+of+XE+Distributions 
which measures the Jetty/HSQLDB packaging.

Apart from the size another important issue is the number of external
dependencies we have which among other things makes dependency
handling a pain for extensions.

Here are some numbers from the 8.3M1 WAR:

The WEB-INF/lib takes 172M from which only 12M is pure XWiki jars.

In the WAR some of the biggest features are (size are the feature and
the dependencies used only by that feature):
* Full text search (close to 70M)
** Solr (~30M), including probably totally useless Jetty (yes in the
WAR) stuff (~2M)
** Tika (more than 33M probably not far from 40M, lots of small stuff
I was too lazy to count since Tika has an insane dependency tree full
of stuff used only by it)

70M for text search, wow, that’s huge indeed. Are there are ways to take only 
some parts of SOLR (We use solr-core (36MB) and solr-solrj (654K))? Maybe we 
could ask on their list.

For Tika I see only 2 jars:
* tika-core: 602K
* tika-parsers: 782K

So I see only a total of ~1.5MB. Have I missed some to get 33MB+ you counted?

* Jython and all its standard libraries (37M): used by code and python macros

Could be good to not use the code macro in the core (I’ve actually always made 
sure to not use it in the extensions I wrote) and bring the code macro as 
flavor dependency only. I’ve just checked quickly and there are very few places 
where we use the code macro in platform. Should be easy to remove those. Then 
we could move the macro to contrib and bundle it in the XE flavor for now.

+1

37MB for what is usually just {{code}} macro is a bit annoying.


* Old GWT Editor (~26M)

+1

* Groovy+Ivy (7M + 1M): not really used in the XE flavor but required
to write a scheduler and many contrib extensions use it and don't
declare it as dependency

-0 this is kind of nice to have {{groovy}} always available for debugging and 7M
is a lot by some standards but it's pretty small as a percentage.


Also +1 the others below...

Thanks,
Caleb



Yep we need to get rid of Groovy in the core. One area is indeed the scheduler 
extension and we know we need to replace the xproperty using groovy by an 
xproperty using wiki syntax to allow all script languages to be used. I don’t 
know of other places requiring absolutely Groovy in the platform. Do you?

Things that would not be too hard to move to Contrib that would also
take several external jars in their luggage (which is also nice for
extensions, the less core extensions the less dependencies issues):
* Office server related stuff (would probably be a good idea anyway to
synchronize it more with LibreOffice than XWiki)

Yep +1. Might need some additional extension points defined to integrate 
cleanly with platform (in create dialog + in WYSIWYG editor).

* Chart macro and renderer

Yep, I don’t know any platform code using that. I’m going to send a proposal 
email on this and I could move it.

* Rendering syntaxes not enabled by default (we already started this
with markdown and mediawiki which are the most used, all the others
are probably never used or very rarely)

Agreed, we have a few more to move out.

* Captcha macro/renderer

Yep

* Formula macro/renderer

Yep

8.3M1 still includes CKEditor and Tour extensions jars which should
not be there anymore in 8.3 final.

You mean that we should start distributing the platform distribution instead of 
XE and make XE a flavor (probably under another name, I’ll send a proposal mail 
about that) that users would pick at runtime, right?

[snip]

Thanks
-Vincent

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