+1 Thanks, Caty
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > On the topic of moving stuff out of core we already have the following 2 > threads: > * http://markmail.org/message/viesrhmdavyvdaec > * http://markmail.org/message/y3bkch37mt5iwvxu > > To summarize, ATM we’ve discussed about: > * xwiki-platform-blog > * xwiki-platform-release > * xwiki-platform-selenium > * some syntaxes: twiki, apt, confluence*, creole, docbook, doxia, jspwiki, > tex > * some macro transformations: linkchecker, wikiword > * some macros like: the ctsreport one > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > On 11 Sep 2016, at 19:21, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Thomas, > > > >> On 11 Sep 2016, at 17:16, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Are those jetty/hsqldb or WAR sizes ? > > > > I’ve used http://snippets.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Size+ > of+XE+Distributions which measures the Jetty/HSQLDB packaging. > > > >> Apart from the size another important issue is the number of external > >> dependencies we have which among other things makes dependency > >> handling a pain for extensions. > >> > >> Here are some numbers from the 8.3M1 WAR: > >> > >> The WEB-INF/lib takes 172M from which only 12M is pure XWiki jars. > >> > >> In the WAR some of the biggest features are (size are the feature and > >> the dependencies used only by that feature): > >> * Full text search (close to 70M) > >> ** Solr (~30M), including probably totally useless Jetty (yes in the > >> WAR) stuff (~2M) > >> ** Tika (more than 33M probably not far from 40M, lots of small stuff > >> I was too lazy to count since Tika has an insane dependency tree full > >> of stuff used only by it) > > > > 70M for text search, wow, that’s huge indeed. Are there are ways to take > only some parts of SOLR (We use solr-core (36MB) and solr-solrj (654K))? > Maybe we could ask on their list. > > > > For Tika I see only 2 jars: > > * tika-core: 602K > > * tika-parsers: 782K > > > > So I see only a total of ~1.5MB. Have I missed some to get 33MB+ you > counted? > > > >> * Jython and all its standard libraries (37M): used by code and python > macros > > > > Could be good to not use the code macro in the core (I’ve actually > always made sure to not use it in the extensions I wrote) and bring the > code macro as flavor dependency only. I’ve just checked quickly and there > are very few places where we use the code macro in platform. Should be easy > to remove those. Then we could move the macro to contrib and bundle it in > the XE flavor for now. > > > >> * Old GWT Editor (~26M) > >> * Groovy+Ivy (7M + 1M): not really used in the XE flavor but required > >> to write a scheduler and many contrib extensions use it and don't > >> declare it as dependency > > > > Yep we need to get rid of Groovy in the core. One area is indeed the > scheduler extension and we know we need to replace the xproperty using > groovy by an xproperty using wiki syntax to allow all script languages to > be used. I don’t know of other places requiring absolutely Groovy in the > platform. Do you? > > > >> Things that would not be too hard to move to Contrib that would also > >> take several external jars in their luggage (which is also nice for > >> extensions, the less core extensions the less dependencies issues): > >> * Office server related stuff (would probably be a good idea anyway to > >> synchronize it more with LibreOffice than XWiki) > > > > Yep +1. Might need some additional extension points defined to integrate > cleanly with platform (in create dialog + in WYSIWYG editor). > > > >> * Chart macro and renderer > > > > Yep, I don’t know any platform code using that. I’m going to send a > proposal email on this and I could move it. > > > >> * Rendering syntaxes not enabled by default (we already started this > >> with markdown and mediawiki which are the most used, all the others > >> are probably never used or very rarely) > > > > Agreed, we have a few more to move out. > > > >> * Captcha macro/renderer > > > > Yep > > > >> * Formula macro/renderer > > > > Yep > > > >> 8.3M1 still includes CKEditor and Tour extensions jars which should > >> not be there anymore in 8.3 final. > > > > You mean that we should start distributing the platform distribution > instead of XE and make XE a flavor (probably under another name, I’ll send > a proposal mail about that) that users would pick at runtime, right? > > > > [snip] > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

