On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:

> Hi devs,
>
> Over the weekend I had some friends at my house and I asked one of them to
> try a few simple tasks in XWiki.
>
> 1) I asked him to modify the home page to put his own content.
>
> He couldn’t find how to edit the home page...
>
> * I ran the Tour wizard and he read everything and finished it and still
> could’t find how to edit
> * He even read the content of the home page and noticed the line that says
> to use the pencil icon above to edit the page. He tried to click the pencil
> icon but couldn’t find or realize that there was a button to click above.
> * In the end I had to explain to him that page action bar.
>
> Idea/suggestion: At the end of the tour or outside the tour, when the
> first user views the home page, have a flashing arrow with a text “click
> here to edit this page” to direct the user to edit the page.
>

Or until we make the interactive tours, showcase the edit buttons in the
first steps of the tour (in case users don't go until the end).


>
> Note that he mentioned having some text before the icons to say that this
> was a Menu… I found it a bit strange. When he saw the XWiki admin UI, he
> said that the vertical menu was much simpler to understand and that it
> would be nicer to use that for the page actions. I explained that it would
> take too much space and he understood that.
>

I'm glad that he liked the vertical menu.


>
> 2) I asked him to create a new page. It took him some time to understand
> he had to enter a title but he did it. He clicked the “empty page”
> template, thinking that it would create the page. He even double-clicked
> it. After some hints from my side, he was able to locate the “create”
> button.
>
> Idea/suggestion: the create button is not easy to locate, it’s quite more
> down from the rest. Note that we’re also missing a cancel button if want to
> go back and not create a page.
>

If we were to break down the 2 columns display it will go even lower, but
on the other hand it will be a vertical form and users will have just 1
direction of flow.


>
> 3) I asked him to delete the page after he edited it and even created a
> new page but he didn’t realize the action would in the same action bar. The
> reason is that the icon for the actions is a “settings”/“cog” icon and he
> thought that there would be admin stuff under it.
>
> Idea/Suggestion: Change the icon to something else.
>

http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/moreActions.png


>
> 4) I asked him to create pages under other pages and he was able to do
> that fine.
>
> 5) He wanted the wiki in French and we noticed quite a few places that
> were missing translations:
> - the new step in the AWM wizard
> - the create page validation message
> - color theme admin UI
>
> (there were a few others but I forgot them)
>
> Note: When adding an image in CKEditor and when in French, the tab for
> uploading is translated as “Téléverser” which is quite awkward in French
> IMO… ;)
>

Not sure we can control translations coming from CKEditor.


>
> 6) He was able to use the navigation panel to navigate
>
> Food for thoughts and actions…
>
>
Thanks for the summary mail. Very interesting.
Caty


> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>
>

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