On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
vali...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > Over the weekend I had some friends at my house and I asked one of them
> to
> > try a few simple tasks in XWiki.
> >
> > 1) I asked him to modify the home page to put his own content.
> >
> > He couldn’t find how to edit the home page...
> >
> > * I ran the Tour wizard and he read everything and finished it and still
> > could’t find how to edit
> > * He even read the content of the home page and noticed the line that
> says
> > to use the pencil icon above to edit the page. He tried to click the
> pencil
> > icon but couldn’t find or realize that there was a button to click above.
> > * In the end I had to explain to him that page action bar.
> >
> > Idea/suggestion: At the end of the tour or outside the tour, when the
> > first user views the home page, have a flashing arrow with a text “click
> > here to edit this page” to direct the user to edit the page.
> >
>
> Or until we make the interactive tours, showcase the edit buttons in the
> first steps of the tour (in case users don't go until the end).
>
>
> >
> > Note that he mentioned having some text before the icons to say that this
> > was a Menu… I found it a bit strange. When he saw the XWiki admin UI, he
> > said that the vertical menu was much simpler to understand and that it
> > would be nicer to use that for the page actions. I explained that it
> would
> > take too much space and he understood that.
> >
>
> I'm glad that he liked the vertical menu.
>
>
> >
> > 2) I asked him to create a new page. It took him some time to understand
> > he had to enter a title but he did it. He clicked the “empty page”
> > template, thinking that it would create the page. He even double-clicked
> > it. After some hints from my side, he was able to locate the “create”
> > button.
> >
> > Idea/suggestion: the create button is not easy to locate, it’s quite more
> > down from the rest. Note that we’re also missing a cancel button if want
> to
> > go back and not create a page.
> >
>
> If we were to break down the 2 columns display it will go even lower, but
> on the other hand it will be a vertical form and users will have just 1
> direction of flow.
>
>
> >
> > 3) I asked him to delete the page after he edited it and even created a
> > new page but he didn’t realize the action would in the same action bar.
> The
> > reason is that the icon for the actions is a “settings”/“cog” icon and he
> > thought that there would be admin stuff under it.
> >
> > Idea/Suggestion: Change the icon to something else.
> >
>
> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/
> moreActions.png
>
>
> >
> > 4) I asked him to create pages under other pages and he was able to do
> > that fine.
> >
> > 5) He wanted the wiki in French and we noticed quite a few places that
> > were missing translations:
> > - the new step in the AWM wizard
> > - the create page validation message
> > - color theme admin UI
> >
> > (there were a few others but I forgot them)
> >
> > Note: When adding an image in CKEditor and when in French, the tab for
> > uploading is translated as “Téléverser” which is quite awkward in French
> > IMO… ;)
> >
>
>

> Not sure we can control translations coming from CKEditor.
>

It needs to be fixed on https://www.transifex.com/ckeditor/ckeditor/ .


>
>
> >
> > 6) He was able to use the navigation panel to navigate
> >
> > Food for thoughts and actions…
> >
> >
> Thanks for the summary mail. Very interesting.
> Caty
>
>
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> >
> >
>

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