On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> > wrote: > > > > > > On 18 Apr 2017, at 15:55, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <ser...@xwiki.org> > > wrote: > > > > > >> On 04/12/2017 01:47 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > > >>> Hi devs, > > >>> > > >>> Some users have complained that the content actions are too abstract > / > > >>> ambiguous and they don't see/understand them so they don't know how > to > > >> Edit > > >>> or Create content in the first minutes of interaction. > > >>> > > >>> More details about this problem can be found at > > >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions > > >>> > > >>> There I've suggested 2 possible proposals: > > >>> Proposal 1: JS Tooltips > > >>> Proposal 2: Labeled actions > > >>> > > >>> Which one do you prefer? > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> Caty > > >>> > > >>> P.S: This was a recurrent topic and we change several things over the > > >>> years. I guess we will continue iterating until we reach the sweet > spot > > >> :) > > >>> > > >> > > >> IMHO, 1 doesn't solve anything. The buttons already have classic > > >> tooltips, and adding "improved" tooltips adds little to the > > >> discoverability of the actions. If someone is looking for the "edit" > > >> button, they scan the screen for that text with their eyes, they > > >> wouldn't just hover everything with the mouse. > > >> > > >> > > > The complain here was the delay the normal tooltips have and that the > > users > > > switch to another item before the tooltip is displayed. > > > > > > > > >> So, the question is: > > >> > > >> - is it better to clutter the screen to help a few first-time users > that > > >> can't interpret the pencil icon? > > >> - is it OK to leave things as they are for a cleaner UI? > > >> - are there better icons to suggest these actions? And by changing > them > > >> now, will current users be disoriented? > > >> > > >> > > > I can't think of other Font Awesome icons to better suggest 'Edit' and > > > 'Create’. > > > > But for the Delete/Rename/Copy we need to change the icon for sure since > > right now we’re using a “settings” type of icon which is quite > misleading. > > > > Ideas: > > - http://fontawesome.io/icon/clone/ > > - http://fontawesome.io/icon/files-o/ > > - http://fontawesome.io/icon/file-o/ > > - http://fontawesome.io/icon/clipboard/ > > > > The Administer page should probably be moved elsewhere. > > > > > How about the "More actions" labeled grouping from > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/P4_ > noRightPanels_manage.png I like it. Thanks, Marius > > > For these changes we need https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14002 and > https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12595 > > Thanks, > Caty > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > > > > > > > >> The deciding factor is exactly how many users have a problem with the > > >> current UI. > > >> -- > > >> Sergiu Dumitriu > > >> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ > > > > >
