On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
> > > On 24 Apr 2017, at 14:25, Eduard Moraru <enygma2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Note that P1 is basically already covered by the latest updates to > Firefox > > where they seem to have lowered drastically the hover tooltip popup > delays > > and have restyled the popups themselves (black background with white > text), > > very close to BootStrap's default. Also note that Google's Chrome also > has > > a very low delay for the tooltip. > > hmm I’m on chrome (v57) and it’s quite slow for me. > Yes, compared to what we have for watchlist which is instance. Firefox and Chrome (v58, but this should not matter) seem to have the same timings. I`ve managed to find the timings for Firefox: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Preferences/Preference_reference/ui.tooltipDelay (the issue that introduced it is also interesting to follow https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204786 ) ...so the default seems to actually be 500ms, which is quite fast, even if a bit over the observable "slow" threshold of 300ms. I mentioned the change because I`ve noticed the speed and styling changes on my Firefox instance. Side note: Just noticed a funny thing in Gmail that the main buttons on top (under the search bar) use JS tooltips, while the top-right buttons (profile, notifications, etc.) use standard browser tooltips, but the timings seem to be set on the JS tooltips to match the default ones. Thanks, Eduard > > By slow I mean close to 2 seconds. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Re http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > > IdeaLabeledActions/P4_noRightPanels_manage.png it is a nice solution to > get > > rid of one extra button in the UI, though it is making the More Actions > > section longer. Even so, coupled with the labeled grouping, I find it > nice > > as well. > > > > Re adding backgrounds, I`m not that fond of it, since it adds a lot of > > weight to an area that is already dominated by the breadcrumbs > background, > > so it would be a bit too much, IMO. On the advantages side, AFAIK, > > backgrounds tend to make a button more touch-friendly (for mobile > devices), > > since it clearly defines the touchable area and is more inviting that > way. > > > > Thanks, > > Eduard > > > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau < > > guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > > > >> To me, P2 looks good, and even better with your new skin. > >> > >> 2017-04-20 14:23 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com > >: > >> > >>> While iterating on this issue, I've done some screenshots for a skin > that > >>> would group the global and the content actions more close together. See > >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/KoelSkin > >>> > >>> My conclusion is that the content menu actions need some affordance > that > >>> they are clickable, so we increase their discoverability. The simplest > is > >>> using a background-color. Now all depends if we want the skin to be > more > >>> cleaner (P4) or more explicit (P2). > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Caty > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> [snip ] > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> How about the "More actions" labeled grouping from > >>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > >>>> IdeaLabeledActions/P4_ > >>>>>> noRightPanels_manage.png > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I like it. > >>>> > >>>> I like it too. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> -Vincent > >>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Marius > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For these changes we need https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14002 > >>> and > >>>>>> https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12595 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Caty > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The deciding factor is exactly how many users have a problem with > >>> the > >>>>>>>>> current UI. > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Sergiu Dumitriu > >>>>>>>>> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > >> Committer on the XWiki.org project > >> > >
