In other words, your proposal is focusing on the tiers but I don’t recall seeing a proposal for the content of the page.
Thanks -Vincent > On 20 Mar 2019, at 13:09, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote: > > Hi Caty, > >> On 20 Mar 2019, at 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> We could spend a lot of time adjusting large donations tiers information. >> I would like us to just create the OpenCollective page. Having just the €5 >> tier would be better than nothing. > > For me the most important is to indeed prepare the OC page which means > defining the story we want to tell and explain why we need donations and what > it’ll be used for. And how the XWiki SAS donations/sponsoring fit in the > picture. All the rest is details and easy. But without this I’m -1 to proceed > since I wouldn’t feel comfortable asking for money that we don’t know what it > would be used for. > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> If we have flexible tiers, people can >> donate as much as they want, if they choose to support us. >> The tiers can be adjusted afterwards when we learn more about the platform >> and how it works. >> I need someone that is an Owner of xwiki-platform Github repository to >> handle the process. >> >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:01 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:47 PM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Another point: >>>> >>>> * There are only recurring donations. I believe we also need one shot >>>> ones, don’t you think? >>>> >>> >>> IMO I prefer more the recurring donations, since the members can always >>> stop the donation. So recurring always includes one time donations. >>> In order to prevent selection paralysis we should not have that many >>> options to choose from. I've already proposed 5, but I'm sure we will have >>> at least 4. If we also add the one time donations is going to add up. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>>> On 19 Mar 2019, at 13:46, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Caty and all, >>>>> >>>>>> On 19 Mar 2019, at 12:11, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Please vote on the Tiers we should have on XWiki's OpenCollective page >>>>>> https://goo.gl/forms/qTDsxt1GvpU0ET3n2 >>>>> >>>>> * What is a member? >>>>> * For me the Tshirt is not part of the title but it’s a reward. >>>>> * Issue sponsor isn’t defined well enough. You seem to indicate 1 issue >>>> only… which is low. Is it 1 issue per release? Also needs some limits on >>>> the complexity (such as < 2 days of work). I would put 2000 euros for 2 >>>> days of work since the goal is not to do service work but to sponsor the >>>> sofware and by doing so you get a reward. So it has to be higher than if >>>> you were just paying for an issue. So I would put 2000 euros for max of 2 >>>> days issues per month. 1000 euros for 1 day is also possible but reduces a >>>> lot the type of issues that can be taken. >>>>> * For all of them I find the description too weak. We need to explain >>>> where the money goes in more details IMO. Also what about XWiki SAS’s >>>> current sponsoring. Why would anyone want to give when XWiki SAS gives >>>> already? This is not explained. >>>>> * Support Sponsor is interesting but it should be 1000 euros per month >>>> and be limited to 2 hours IMO. >>>>> >>>>> Regarding Issue sponsor and Support Sponsor there’s an issue though. >>>> It’s not clear where the money goes and what it’ll be used for. Imagine, >>>> for example, that Clemens does an Issue sponsor. Does some part of the >>>> money go to him? If not, what is it used for and how does it benefit >>>> Clemens globally? >>>>> >>>>> So I really think we need to explain what the money is going to be used >>>> in details, on top of what XWiki SAS already sponsors. That should be our >>>> first step IMO. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Caty >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:26 PM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I’d say that we should start with opencollective for now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We can always add more later on. But the importance is to get started. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2019, at 16:39, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>> vali...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For the record: OpenCollective's 'competitor' >>>>>>> https://communitybridge.org, >>>>>>>> still in early access, but launched by Linux Foundation ( >>>>>>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We could use the CommunityBridge in parallel with OpenCollective. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:20 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ping >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:22 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>>>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi devs, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is a proposal for the content we would have if we were to >>>> create >>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>> OpenCollective account for XWiki. >>>>>>>>>> Take a look at >>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOpenCollective >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The issues we need to solve / validate are: >>>>>>>>>> A. Decide on the URL name (xwiki is already taken by XWiki SAS) >>>>>>>>>> B. See if XWiki SAS can act like our Fiscal host >>>>>>>>>> C. Validate the tiers and content >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOpenCollective#HTiers >>>>>>>>>> (we might need more details on how the "Bug Fixer" works in case we >>>>>>> agree >>>>>>>>>> to it) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think, >>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >
