News: GitHub announced today Sponsors, https://github.com/sponsors as a way
to sponsors open source.

There is also a FUNDING.yml that can be added to projects
https://twitter.com/github/status/1131477404843741184

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:03 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> In my proposal there was just a simple description of the XWiki project.
> Personally I can back and show support for a project without having all the
> details.
> Regarding proceeding, this is what I could help towards this process:
> investigating limitations, requirements, proposing tiers. I'm glad things
> are clear until now.
> Regarding donations usage, sponsoring details: would be great if you could
> add what you have in mind on the proposal page since it seams you have
> clear expectations on what it should contain. This would provide a start
> for a discussion.
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:10 PM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
>
>> In other words, your proposal is focusing on the tiers but I don’t recall
>> seeing a proposal for the content of the page.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> > On 20 Mar 2019, at 13:09, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Caty,
>> >
>> >> On 20 Mar 2019, at 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We could spend a lot of time adjusting large donations tiers
>> information.
>> >> I would like us to just create the OpenCollective page. Having just
>> the €5
>> >> tier would be better than nothing.
>> >
>> > For me the most important is to indeed prepare the OC page which means
>> defining the story we want to tell and explain why we need donations and
>> what it’ll be used for. And how the XWiki SAS donations/sponsoring fit in
>> the picture. All the rest is details and easy. But without this I’m -1 to
>> proceed since I wouldn’t feel comfortable asking for money that we don’t
>> know what it would be used for.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > -Vincent
>> >
>> >> If we have flexible tiers, people can
>> >> donate as much as they want, if they choose to support us.
>> >> The tiers can be adjusted afterwards when we learn more about the
>> platform
>> >> and how it works.
>> >> I need someone that is an Owner of xwiki-platform Github repository to
>> >> handle the process.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Caty
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:01 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>> vali...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:47 PM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Another point:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> * There are only recurring donations. I believe we also need one shot
>> >>>> ones, don’t you think?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> IMO I prefer more the recurring donations, since the members can
>> always
>> >>> stop the donation. So recurring always includes one time donations.
>> >>> In order to prevent selection paralysis we should not have that many
>> >>> options to choose from. I've already proposed 5, but I'm sure we will
>> have
>> >>> at least 4. If we also add the one time donations is going to add up.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks
>> >>>> -Vincent
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 19 Mar 2019, at 13:46, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Caty and all,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 19 Mar 2019, at 12:11, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>> vali...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Please vote on the Tiers we should have on XWiki's OpenCollective
>> page
>> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/forms/qTDsxt1GvpU0ET3n2
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> * What is a member?
>> >>>>> * For me the Tshirt is not part of the title but it’s a reward.
>> >>>>> * Issue sponsor isn’t defined well enough. You seem to indicate 1
>> issue
>> >>>> only… which is low. Is it 1 issue per release? Also needs some
>> limits on
>> >>>> the complexity (such as < 2 days of work). I would put 2000 euros
>> for 2
>> >>>> days of work since the goal is not to do service work but to sponsor
>> the
>> >>>> sofware and by doing so you get a reward. So it has to be higher
>> than if
>> >>>> you were just paying for an issue. So I would put 2000 euros for max
>> of 2
>> >>>> days issues per month. 1000 euros for 1 day is also possible but
>> reduces a
>> >>>> lot the type of issues that can be taken.
>> >>>>> * For all of them I find the description too weak. We need to
>> explain
>> >>>> where the money goes in more details IMO. Also what about XWiki SAS’s
>> >>>> current sponsoring. Why would anyone want to give when XWiki SAS
>> gives
>> >>>> already? This is not explained.
>> >>>>> * Support Sponsor is interesting but it should be 1000 euros per
>> month
>> >>>> and be limited to 2 hours IMO.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Regarding Issue sponsor and Support Sponsor there’s an issue though.
>> >>>> It’s not clear where the money goes and what it’ll be used for.
>> Imagine,
>> >>>> for example, that Clemens does an Issue sponsor. Does some part of
>> the
>> >>>> money go to him? If not, what is it used for and how does it benefit
>> >>>> Clemens globally?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> So I really think we need to explain what the money is going to be
>> used
>> >>>> in details, on top of what XWiki SAS already sponsors. That should
>> be our
>> >>>> first step IMO.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>> -Vincent
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> Caty
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:26 PM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net
>> >
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I’d say that we should start with opencollective for now.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We can always add more later on. But the importance is to get
>> started.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>>> -Vincent
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2019, at 16:39, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>> >>>> vali...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> For the record: OpenCollective's 'competitor'
>> >>>>>>> https://communitybridge.org,
>> >>>>>>>> still in early access, but launched by Linux Foundation (
>> >>>>>>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> We could use the CommunityBridge in parallel with OpenCollective.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:20 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>> >>>>>>>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Ping
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:22 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>> >>>>>>>>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi devs,
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> This is a proposal for the content we would have if we were to
>> >>>> create
>> >>>>>>> an
>> >>>>>>>>>> OpenCollective account for XWiki.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Take a look at
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOpenCollective
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> The issues we need to solve / validate are:
>> >>>>>>>>>> A. Decide on the URL name (xwiki is already taken by XWiki SAS)
>> >>>>>>>>>> B. See if XWiki SAS can act like our Fiscal host
>> >>>>>>>>>> C. Validate the tiers and content
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOpenCollective#HTiers
>> >>>>>>>>>> (we might need more details on how the "Bug Fixer" works in
>> case we
>> >>>>>>> agree
>> >>>>>>>>>> to it)
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think,
>> >>>>>>>>>> Caty
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>>
>>

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