News: GitHub announced today Sponsors, https://github.com/sponsors as a way to sponsors open source.
There is also a FUNDING.yml that can be added to projects https://twitter.com/github/status/1131477404843741184 On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:03 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > In my proposal there was just a simple description of the XWiki project. > Personally I can back and show support for a project without having all the > details. > Regarding proceeding, this is what I could help towards this process: > investigating limitations, requirements, proposing tiers. I'm glad things > are clear until now. > Regarding donations usage, sponsoring details: would be great if you could > add what you have in mind on the proposal page since it seams you have > clear expectations on what it should contain. This would provide a start > for a discussion. > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:10 PM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote: > >> In other words, your proposal is focusing on the tiers but I don’t recall >> seeing a proposal for the content of the page. >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >> > On 20 Mar 2019, at 13:09, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Caty, >> > >> >> On 20 Mar 2019, at 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> We could spend a lot of time adjusting large donations tiers >> information. >> >> I would like us to just create the OpenCollective page. Having just >> the €5 >> >> tier would be better than nothing. >> > >> > For me the most important is to indeed prepare the OC page which means >> defining the story we want to tell and explain why we need donations and >> what it’ll be used for. And how the XWiki SAS donations/sponsoring fit in >> the picture. All the rest is details and easy. But without this I’m -1 to >> proceed since I wouldn’t feel comfortable asking for money that we don’t >> know what it would be used for. >> > >> > Thanks >> > -Vincent >> > >> >> If we have flexible tiers, people can >> >> donate as much as they want, if they choose to support us. >> >> The tiers can be adjusted afterwards when we learn more about the >> platform >> >> and how it works. >> >> I need someone that is an Owner of xwiki-platform Github repository to >> >> handle the process. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Caty >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:01 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> vali...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:47 PM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Another point: >> >>>> >> >>>> * There are only recurring donations. I believe we also need one shot >> >>>> ones, don’t you think? >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> IMO I prefer more the recurring donations, since the members can >> always >> >>> stop the donation. So recurring always includes one time donations. >> >>> In order to prevent selection paralysis we should not have that many >> >>> options to choose from. I've already proposed 5, but I'm sure we will >> have >> >>> at least 4. If we also add the one time donations is going to add up. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks >> >>>> -Vincent >> >>>> >> >>>>> On 19 Mar 2019, at 13:46, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Hi Caty and all, >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On 19 Mar 2019, at 12:11, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> vali...@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Please vote on the Tiers we should have on XWiki's OpenCollective >> page >> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/forms/qTDsxt1GvpU0ET3n2 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> * What is a member? >> >>>>> * For me the Tshirt is not part of the title but it’s a reward. >> >>>>> * Issue sponsor isn’t defined well enough. You seem to indicate 1 >> issue >> >>>> only… which is low. Is it 1 issue per release? Also needs some >> limits on >> >>>> the complexity (such as < 2 days of work). I would put 2000 euros >> for 2 >> >>>> days of work since the goal is not to do service work but to sponsor >> the >> >>>> sofware and by doing so you get a reward. So it has to be higher >> than if >> >>>> you were just paying for an issue. So I would put 2000 euros for max >> of 2 >> >>>> days issues per month. 1000 euros for 1 day is also possible but >> reduces a >> >>>> lot the type of issues that can be taken. >> >>>>> * For all of them I find the description too weak. We need to >> explain >> >>>> where the money goes in more details IMO. Also what about XWiki SAS’s >> >>>> current sponsoring. Why would anyone want to give when XWiki SAS >> gives >> >>>> already? This is not explained. >> >>>>> * Support Sponsor is interesting but it should be 1000 euros per >> month >> >>>> and be limited to 2 hours IMO. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Regarding Issue sponsor and Support Sponsor there’s an issue though. >> >>>> It’s not clear where the money goes and what it’ll be used for. >> Imagine, >> >>>> for example, that Clemens does an Issue sponsor. Does some part of >> the >> >>>> money go to him? If not, what is it used for and how does it benefit >> >>>> Clemens globally? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> So I really think we need to explain what the money is going to be >> used >> >>>> in details, on top of what XWiki SAS already sponsors. That should >> be our >> >>>> first step IMO. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks >> >>>>> -Vincent >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>>> Caty >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:26 PM Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net >> > >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I’d say that we should start with opencollective for now. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> We can always add more later on. But the importance is to get >> started. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Thanks >> >>>>>>> -Vincent >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2019, at 16:39, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> >>>> vali...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> For the record: OpenCollective's 'competitor' >> >>>>>>> https://communitybridge.org, >> >>>>>>>> still in early access, but launched by Linux Foundation ( >> >>>>>>>> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/) >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> We could use the CommunityBridge in parallel with OpenCollective. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:20 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> >>>>>>>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Ping >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:22 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> >>>>>>>>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi devs, >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> This is a proposal for the content we would have if we were to >> >>>> create >> >>>>>>> an >> >>>>>>>>>> OpenCollective account for XWiki. >> >>>>>>>>>> Take a look at >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOpenCollective >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> The issues we need to solve / validate are: >> >>>>>>>>>> A. Decide on the URL name (xwiki is already taken by XWiki SAS) >> >>>>>>>>>> B. See if XWiki SAS can act like our Fiscal host >> >>>>>>>>>> C. Validate the tiers and content >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>> >> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiOpenCollective#HTiers >> >>>>>>>>>> (we might need more details on how the "Bug Fixer" works in >> case we >> >>>>>>> agree >> >>>>>>>>>> to it) >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think, >> >>>>>>>>>> Caty >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> > >> >>