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   1. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: extremely slow DHCPD startup time
      (Shane Merritt)
   2. Re: extremely slow DHCPD startup time (Timothe Litt)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 20:18:04 +0000
From: Shane Merritt <smerr...@ua.edu>
To: Users of ISC DHCP <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: extremely slow DHCPD startup time
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The server disks are already SSD.  The total max available lease space 
according to dhcpd-pools is 283,751.  I did a restart on one of the pair 
earlier and the time was about 10 minutes, but activity is low at the moment 
since fall semester hasn?t begun.

Shane Merritt
Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama
smerr...@ua.edu


From: dhcp-users <dhcp-users-boun...@lists.isc.org> on behalf of Sten Carlsen 
<st...@s-carlsen.dk>
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 2:54 PM
To: Users of ISC DHCP <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: extremely slow DHCPD startup time



On 4 Aug 2022, at 21.05, Greg Sloop <gr...@sloop.net<mailto:gr...@sloop.net>> 
<gr...@sloop.net<mailto:gr...@sloop.net>> wrote:

I'm sure others will have some useful suggestions - but I do know that 
improving disk I/O can seriously improve performance.
I'm not sure if that will improve restart/start/reload times.

It would be pretty easy to test though, say swapping for an SSD/Nvme.
(Or if you like living dangerously, putting the disk in RAM.)



On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:02 PM Shane Merritt 
<smerr...@ua.edu<mailto:smerr...@ua.edu>> wrote:
I have a failover pair of DHCP servers running 4.4.2-P1 that handle a DHCP for 
a very large wireless network (>75k devices active at any time). The leases 
file on these boxes is around 200 megabytes.  The problem I am having is when I 
need to make a change and restart, DHCPD takes over 25 minutes to start giving 
out addresses.  I assume this is due to the large lease file.  I see that there 
are tons of leases in the file that are ?binding state free? that in some cases 
are months old.  Are there any suggestions to improve this situation?

AFAIK the server will fill its internal tables with every possible lease, most 
of them empty or marked free. I could be wrong about this.

So the question is how large your net blocks are?

If you e.g. have a /8 address space, that would amount to the server having to 
populate 2^24 (16 mill) entries in its internal table and do what ever 
processing etc it does for each entry. This may take time.




Shane Merritt
Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama
smerr...@ua.edu<mailto:smerr...@ua.edu>

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 19:54:38 -0400
From: Timothe Litt <l...@acm.org>
To: dhcp-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: extremely slow DHCPD startup time
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On 04-Aug-22 15:51, dhcp-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote:
> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 12:05:46 -0700
> From: "Greg Sloop<gr...@sloop.net>"<gr...@sloop.net>
> To: Users of ISC DHCP<dhcp-users@lists.isc.org>
> Subject: Re: extremely slow DHCPD startup time
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> I'm sure others will have some useful suggestions - but I do know that
> improving disk I/O can seriously improve performance.
> I'm not sure if that will improve restart/start/reload times.
>
> It would be pretty easy to test though, say swapping for an SSD/Nvme.
> (Or if you like living dangerously, putting the disk in RAM.)

To live less dangerously, create a partition for your lease file on a 
real disk.? lvm or mdadm mirror (RAID 1) it with a RAM disk, and set the 
real disk to -writemostly (lvm) / -W (mdadm.

Writes will be limited to the speed of the real disk, but reads (thus 
startup) will go at RAM disk speeds.

Startup/shutdown needs to create/remove the RAM disk.

https://www.howtoforge.com/hybrid-raid_1-mirror-of-ram-drive-and-sata-hdd-using-lvm-with-luks-and-systemd-on-fedora-linux
 
has a basic example (near the end).

For system boot, you can make dhcpd start after the RAM disk is 
initialized and mirror copy is complete or you can have the initial 
dhcpd startup run from the real disk and let the mirror catch up.? The 
former is probably faster (the real disk will be read only by the mirror 
copy), but you should benchmark it since YMMV.

tmpfs can be used instead of the RAM disk.

You should also make sure that dhcpd's ulimits (and system memory) 
suffice to avoid pagefaults/swapping while dhcpd is building its 
in-memory structures from the leases file.

Don't forget to allocate enough space for both leases and leases~ in the 
partition & RAMdisk.


Timothe Litt
ACM Distinguished Engineer
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