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In my somewhat limited experience (only a couple high traffic DHCP servers in virtuals - many on single SSD storage systems), I/O is a problem for DHCP servers installed in virtual infrastructure (no matter what sort of storage you have on the back end). A single CPU - multi core Xeon 1U system with a single SSD and 16GB RAM will run circles around virtuals for ISC DHCP in the I/O department. No idea why. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shane Merritt" <smerr...@ua.edu> > To: "Users of ISC DHCP" <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org> > Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 4:18:04 PM > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: extremely slow DHCPD startup time > The server disks are already SSD. The total max available lease space > according > to dhcpd-pools is 283,751. I did a restart on one of the pair earlier and the > time was about 10 minutes, but activity is low at the moment since fall > semester hasn?t begun. > Shane Merritt > Office of Information Technology > The University of Alabama > smerr...@ua.edu > From: dhcp-users <dhcp-users-boun...@lists.isc.org> on behalf of Sten Carlsen > <st...@s-carlsen.dk> > Date: Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 2:54 PM > To: Users of ISC DHCP <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: extremely slow DHCPD startup time >> On 4 Aug 2022, at 21.05, Greg Sloop < [ mailto:gr...@sloop.net | >> gr...@sloop.net >> ] > < [ mailto:gr...@sloop.net | gr...@sloop.net ] > wrote: >> I'm sure others will have some useful suggestions - but I do know that >> improving >> disk I/O can seriously improve performance. >> I'm not sure if that will improve restart/start/reload times. >> It would be pretty easy to test though, say swapping for an SSD/Nvme. >> (Or if you like living dangerously, putting the disk in RAM.) >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 12:02 PM Shane Merritt < [ mailto:smerr...@ua.edu | >> smerr...@ua.edu ] > wrote: >>> I have a failover pair of DHCP servers running 4.4.2-P1 that handle a DHCP >>> for a >>> very large wireless network (>75k devices active at any time). The leases >>> file >>> on these boxes is around 200 megabytes. The problem I am having is when I >>> need >>> to make a change and restart, DHCPD takes over 25 minutes to start giving >>> out >>> addresses. I assume this is due to the large lease file. I see that there >>> are >>> tons of leases in the file that are ?binding state free? that in some cases >>> are >>> months old. Are there any suggestions to improve this situation? > AFAIK the server will fill its internal tables with every possible lease, most > of them empty or marked free. I could be wrong about this. > So the question is how large your net blocks are? > If you e.g. have a /8 address space, that would amount to the server having to > populate 2^24 (16 mill) entries in its internal table and do what ever > processing etc it does for each entry. 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I'd suggest trying Kea, the ISC DHCP server that's undergoing active development. There's a tool to migrate the old configuration to the new JSON format. Alas, there's no tool to migrate the lease file. That sounds like a big obstacle for migrating big sites or testing the new software against a big existing deployment database. ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. dhcp-users mailing list dhcp-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users ------------------------------ End of dhcp-users Digest, Vol 166, Issue 3 ******************************************