Actually, I don't think we have had any discussion of attributes at all... today, we have attributes (for 'aggregates', ou, de, etc) and we have patientattributes... both seem inadequate for this purpose.. and I would hope we don't reuse any of them.
-- Morten On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Bob Jolliffe <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry I don't have much idea on how the detailed discussion has been on > actually implementing the attributes. I had assumed (now it seems wrongly) > that you would use something based on our existing attributes mechanism. > Having yet-another-object-with-attributes seems to me like the wrong > approach. Either try to use existing mechanism or generalize and improve > that if there are deficiencies. For example liked the discussion I was > hearing about labels etc. > > Anyway too late here now I must sleep. Catch up later. > > > On 7 December 2013 23:59, Morten Olav Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm curious to know how we will model attributes on this tracked entity. >> I think we should open the discission up to more people. It's not like >> these kinds of changes will come soon anyways. >> >> Maybe it should be modelled as a new kind of 'idObject' with attributes.. >> If so, the name tracked entity is completely wrong. A tracked entity would >> need something that sets it apart from idObject + attributes. Maybe we >> should simply use the name Entity. >> On Dec 7, 2013 10:53 PM, "Bob Jolliffe" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Morten >>> >>> Fully understand that you want to do this with tracker and not >>> suggesting we have to attack the other stuff simultaneously. I'm just at >>> this stage talking about what we name this new creature. We shouldn't name >>> it as if it was somehow only related to tracker, when in fact we are >>> implementing a more generally very useful mechanism which we plan initially >>> to use with tracker, but could and possibly should turn out to be useful >>> for other things. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> On 7 December 2013 21:10, Morten Olav Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Bob, >>>> >>>> I kinda agree with that. From what you're saying, you want something >>>> more along the lines of an idObject + attributes? I would like that also, >>>> for all our types really, but I don't think that's what's happening now... >>>> it's just the tracker module that is changing.. >>>> >>>> I would like us to even look at our aggregate datamodel this way, but >>>> (correct me if I'm wrong) Lars said it would impact our performance quite >>>> badly... not to mention that everything would need to be rewritten >>>> >>>> There are many benefits to at least doing this within the tracker >>>> domain, especially with validation... >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Morten >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Bob Jolliffe <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't like this name at all :-( >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure there is anything about this new entity object which >>>>> logically ties it to tracking. So for example such an object could serve >>>>> equally well as a base class for an orgunit or other dhis2 metadata >>>>> objects >>>>> in any future refactoring. Isn't the key innovation that it is an object >>>>> with minimal fixed properties? >>>>> >>>>> So I would be in favour of a more generic name which reflects more >>>>> what this class will actually do rather than which area you see it its >>>>> current specific use (things to be tracked). >>>>> >>>>> Something along the lines of DynamicEntity (or DynamicObject) or the >>>>> like makes sense. Of course you can layer tracked things on top of that. >>>>> >>>>> A passing thought (which also relates to other "complex" objects whose >>>>> attributes are spread across multiple tables) is that this might also be >>>>> an >>>>> opportunity to also address the problem of how to determine "lastUpdated" >>>>> on such objects. Recall that this is an outstanding concern currently >>>>> with >>>>> orgunits making correct facility registry implementation impossiible. >>>>> >>>>> So perhaps again this is an opportunity to address the concerns in the >>>>> current discussion in as general a way as possible so that we can try and >>>>> reap benefits across the system. >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6 December 2013 17:45, Morten Olav Hansen <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Jim Grace <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> TrackedEntity >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Morten >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs-core >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs-core >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >
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