Yes, I can totally agree on that. You will always need active moderation. Or you will get spam, advertisments, robots and other bad stuff. If you have a board with moreand more users you will also have to reply to more and more private messages, e-mails and requests you get.
And this may take a lot of time.

Markus

Am 30.11.2010 21:56, schrieb Tom Miles:

Our experience with a Spanish version of the biomass cooking stoves group is that it has been difficult to find a motivated moderator for the group. Some of us who speak fluent Spanish just don't have the time to moderate the group. Without a moderator discussions degenerate. As Paul knows it can take 5 to 6 hours a week or more to be an active moderator.

Tom Miles

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*From:*digestion-boun...@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:digestion-boun...@lists.bioenergylists.org] *On Behalf Of *Alexander Eaton
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:47 PM
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Thanks Marcus,

We also fear that automated translations are not sufficient for this type of discussion, but we may have a bit of funding for summarized translation as necessary. Since Spanish is now the second most spoken language, we feel like it would be appropriate for this type of discussion in that language to serve this large population. English is a good catch all for the scientific community, but I can imagine that access to German and Chinese discussions on the theme would be useful. We are lucky that our colleagues from India speak English! We will be working on this theme further if anyone has any ideas or is interested in participating.

Saludos,

Alex

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Markus Schlattmann <fir...@schlattmann.de <mailto:fir...@schlattmann.de>> wrote:

HI Alex,




Markus, do you ever post across the languages between the German and English discussions? Of all the discussion groups I have found, this seems to be the most comprehensive and active.

No, there's no cross-posting between my german and english language boards. They are each independent boards. Some years ago I also have set up a French and Hungarian language board with help of users speaking those languages, but there was almost no traffic. So I decided to just keep the german and english language boards only.

It's quite ease to set up a group or discussion board but it's permanent work to keep it running if it's still small and not well known. Since I started my site in 2004 it now will have about 1.600.000 page views generated by about 165.000 visits (this year 2010, robots are not counted). So now it's quite well known in Germany and there are new postings almost every day. But it will take a lot of additional work to get some more action in the other areas and english language boards.

If I would translate each posting manually => this would be too much work (I also have a "normal" job to do at a biogas company :) ). And I think automated translation and cross-posting between my boards would not be a very good idea, since the quality of translations may be very wrong and also the topic interests between the english language board users and german board users are quite different.

Markus





Alex


On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Markus Schlattmann <fir...@schlattmann.de <mailto:fir...@schlattmann.de>> wrote:

There's also a biogas group on Facebook (not very active) and my own discussion boards on schlattmann.de <http://schlattmann.de> (german: very active, english: still not very active).

Markus


 Am 30.11.2010 16:20, schrieb Anand Karve:

    Dear Hooroo,

    I am the member of only this one group.

    Yours

    A.D.Karve

    On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Mattocks, Richard
    <richard.matto...@veoliawater.com
    <mailto:richard.matto...@veoliawater.com>> wrote:

    That was easy. Might you share contact info for the org's?

    Thanks for all your work.

    Richard

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    *Paul Harris
    *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2010 9:23 PM
    *To:* 'For Discussion of Anaerobic Digestion'
    *Subject:* [Digestion] Biogas Groups

    G'day All,

    As the number of Anaerobic Digestion/Biogas Discussion forums
    grows I thought it would be interesting to see who is a member of
    what. I have set up a one question survey where you can click on
    the appropriate lists (or add any that I have not found yet!).

    Please participate in the survey at
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    results for your enlightenment.

    Happy digesting,

    HOOROO

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