Not surprising that an interest group from America subtly tries to create a concern to serve its own purpose, rather than to address a serious issue. This is well in keep with the folks that ban the teaching of Darwinian principles, "pro-life" taliban campainers and the like. How can you call serious a comment that only references its own propaganda to back its arguments?! I remember years ago water companies in the UK spent thousands of pounds and years of research on the increased explosion potential from iron dosage to sludge. Only because an idiot raised it as a potential concern for sludge drying. Obviously the "idiot" had no evidence, only a "hunch", but he was willing to do the research. Of course, a couple of regulators present at the time, jumped on the topic to pretend they were doing something..........and that's how many of us ended up wasting two years of futile research. Good comes out of continuous enquiry, but when this is driven by interest, or misinformation it is a sickening waste of time! Even if there was high CN in the effluent (see the question mark) you need to look at what are the processes taking place in the soil, concentration, etc; considering this material will have to be diluted with others in order to be able to effectively digest....
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I will take every bit of mentoring this terrific group is willing to provide. Yes our website is still stuck in it's "concept design", as I have been busy absorbing all the science education I can. I am a design engineer, who with others (even less informed than me!) in my community have decided to take the lead and actually do something other than political posing. I've already researched some local poultry producer's feed since writing, and so far none have arsenic. So I'm hoping the arsenic comment was more hysteria. Our goal is to build our 6,000 gallon poultry prototype and produce results before confronting various parties who will ultimately involve themselves one way or another. ... So that we have an active example to go with the types of information you so correctly suggest. Unfortunately too much advance promotion of our project could hurt it. We have the challenge of a real mix of serious issues like arsenic in feed, phosphate runoffs into bays and streams, with misinformation that could oppose the AD solution. We need to be aware of what possible green rhetoric is coming our way that would oppose AD. We do have supporters. Tomorrow our university's research team is coming with laboratory created innoculum for our 350 gallon "mini-prototype", and to observe our very successful solar heated tank system. So we will be loading chicken poop finally! Thanks so much group. I really want to stick with utilizing this list to learn my science. But thanks for the responses to these other issues. Steven -- Steven Bolgiano Executive Director Planet Foundation Ltd. 443.235.1344 ------------------ -----Original Message----- From:digestion-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org> [mailto:digestion-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org>] On Behalf Of Alan Muller Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:02 PM To: For Discussion of Anaerobic Digestion; digestion at lists.bioenergylists.org <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org> Subject: Re: [Digestion] Environmentalists Anti-AD Issues Steve: I see somebody already sent my recent post on arsenic in poultry feed to this list. I looked at your website but there's nothing of substance there. My suggestion is to post enough information about the process you are promoting that people could begin to make an informed judgement about it. Lay off the "green" rhetoric and all that.....and produce detailed, speciated material balances. Alan Muller At 09:11 AM 6/15/2011 -0400, Steven Bolgiano wrote: >/Hi Group, />/I overheard one of our more local strident activists, when asked about />/AD for poultry comment that the by-product compost from poultry />/digesters contained significant amounts of arsenic. />/ />/Can anyone comment on this or other known or potential anti-AD />/Environmentalist issues. Here on the "Delmarva" peninsula />/over-application of raw chicken manure onto the farm fields, and the />/subsequent runoff into our abundance of estuaries and bays is a big />/issue. Our goal of introducing absolute containment with solar heated />/bladder/ batch systems and a more environmentally acceptable compost />/byproduct .... is supposed to attract a positive response from />/activists. />/ />/Comments, Information, Suggestions? />/ />/Thanks! />/Steven />/ />/-- />/Steven Bolgiano />/Executive Director />/Planet Foundation Ltd. />/443.235.1344 / -- Steven Bolgiano Executive Director Planet Foundation Ltd. 443.235.1344 _______________________________________________ Digestion mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org for more information about digestion, see Beginner's Guide to Biogas http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/ and the Biogas Wiki http://biogas.wikispaces.com/
