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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Alfred Bork
> Sent: 02 February 2005 19:58
> To: 'The Digital Divide Network discussion group'
> Subject: RE: [DDN] FW: [NIFL-HEALTH:4627] Adult Literacy 
> education Wiki
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> Scientists eliminate some possibilities before beginning an 
> experiment.

Yes, but only in order to narrow the field of their own research. Just
because one scientist rejects a potential solution without experimentation
does not mean that all scientists must do so. In fact it would be a mistake
to do so without well reasoned argument.

> Finally, if you have empirical evidence that supports your 
> position please
> 
> provide it and save us all some time.
> 
> [Alfred Bork] 
> 
>  
> 
> My papers and books describe such an experiment, but we do 
> not yet have funding for such an experiment. Convincing 
> experiments in education are costly and difficult, because of 
> the great differences between individuals.

If I read this correctly, you, as a scientist, have chosen to reject Wiki's
as a solution. This rejection is based on your, so far unproven, scientific
reasoning. Fair enough (see above), however this is no reason for the rest
of us to reject it just yet.

Perhaps an illustrative example would help:

Illiteracy is perceived as a problem for subsistence farmers in Guyana (and
no-doubt other parts of the Caribbean). A colleague at the Caribbean
Agriculture Research and Development Institute has a proposal for attacking
this problem, but not by increasing the level of literacy directly.

He believes the immediate problem is not the level of illiteracy but the
lack of understanding of efficient farming techniques. This is important as
poor yields result in malnutrition, which, elsewhere in the world, has been
linked to a higher incidence of death through HIV/Aids in the young. Without
the young there will be no people to become literate (Guyana has a very high
incidence of HIV/Aids. He therefore proposes developing content materials
that would be understandable to illiterate farmers. A potentially useful
"side effect" of this project is that it provides an "opening" to develop
this training into adult literacy education.

A wiki such as this one would enable my colleagues at CARDI to share this
somewhat specialist view with those specialising in adult literacy, i.e.
those with the skills to help create the training materials.

Eventually a Wiki might turn out to be just the tool for developing the
content, since the people who know best how to farm in Guyana are the more
successful Guyanese subsistence farmers, and some of them are literate.

So, do I think there can be a *direct* effect on adult literacy - quite
possibly, but I am not experienced enough to say for sure, I'd love to see
the experiment carried out though (I've pointed the relevant folk at the
Wiki, the rest is up to them).

> Are you saying that the Wiki will have no direct application 
> to solving the problem of adult literacy, but will only 
> suggest through its articles some possible directions?

No, I am not a part of the group operating this adult literacy Wiki, nor am
I experienced in adult literacy education I am simply applauding this
effort, whilst at the same time hoping to learn a little from other peoples
experiences.

Ross



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