Jayne Cravens said...
Blogger.com does not work with my machine -- I'm on a Mactintosh, and have three browsers: MS Explorer 5, Netscape 7.0, and Opera 6.3. Blogger.com does not work with any of them -- it will not let me create an account/login. I wrote tech support and their reply: use a different machine with a higher version of MS Explorer or NetScape. So, I certainly won't be recommending blogger.com to anyone.
J Craven, I actually have a class project where my freshmen use blogger.com. Until about a month ago, they were using PowerMac G3s with IE5 and they worked. There's no "Sign In" button to press, but enter your username and password, then press Enter on the keyboard, and you're logged in. There's some functionality missing, but to say that it does not work would be overstating the issue. I use a Mac with NS7 and there is no trouble getting into my Blogger account. Maybe there are other problems with your computers.
Taran, turning off the style sheets in your browser and separating content from design are not mutually exclusive, in fact they depend on each other. It is *because* you separate content from design that turning off style sheets in your browser works well. That's exactly why style sheets play an important part in the future of Web design: they allow you to present style to those that can handle it and content to everyone...EVERYONE. There's the emphasis.
And I don't think we're talking about browser standards. We're talking about how to code sites so that they play nice with older browsers; we're talking about coding standards, the thing we have control over. If we're talking about browser standards, those standards are already in place with new browsers. We can't impose any browser standards on old browsers (I know the subject line implies that discussion, but I think we turned from that a while ago; the original topic was a call for the lowest common denominator in browsers).
I think we are now talking about coding standards so that those with older browsers can still have access to content. I argue that it's already happening and turning off style sheets allows that to happen. I don't think it's asking too much of a user with a low-end computer to surf with style sheets off. They don't miss much content (if any), they just miss on style. Some concessions must be made and I'm afraid to say that style is expendable. Content is not.
I still believe we're creating an issue where there isn't one. Turn off style sheets and everyone can browse the internet and even start a blog. The current W3C standards have made a big move toward that separation of content and style. That's exactly what we should all want since that makes the content accessible to everyone (remember my emphasis from earlier).
-todd seal
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