Hello All,

I've been lurking for several years, but this item has pulled me out of
hiding.

I want to point out, just in case it has not been mentioned by Taran or
others, that the initial Simputer had a text-to-speech synthesizer built
into it for several Indian languages, which made it possible for
non-literate users to use the computer to 'read' text files written in their
own language.  I'm hoping that this feature is still there, and will be
expanded.  I know there is a linguist in the UK or Europe who was working on
a talking word processor authoring kit, which would allow the author to
speak in the crucial phonemics of any language, written or not, and create a
roman/arabic orthography-based talking word processor in the target
language.

Putting these two capacities together is a project that would interest me
greatly.

Feedback?

Bill

Dr. William Peet, CEO
Interest-Driven Learning, Inc.
446 Bouchelle Drive #303
New Smyrna Beach, FL  32169
www.drpeet.com
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Taran Rampersad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Digital Divide Network discussion group"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:00 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [DDN] Update on the Simputer


> Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
>
> >Taran,
> >
> >I ask you this publicly rather than privately, since others on this DDN
list
> >may have the same question.
> >
> >How man US dollars does a "high end" Amida Simputer cost?
> >
> >
> Right now? $480. With an initial run of 50,000 manufactured, it's hard
> to compete with a Dell - so take that into consideration before you
> start making judgements. Oh - and you're asking for a comparison of a
> laptop to a palmtop. That's a little strange, but I'll go with it. I
> imagine if I bought more than 10, I could negotiate a better price.
>
> >And how does it compare in power and utility with an entry level Dell
> >Computer that costs 298 US dollars, and is described in this way:
> >
> >Base Model Includes:
> > IntelTM  CeleronTM  processor at 2.40GHz
> > Microsoft®  Windows®  XP Home Edition
> > 256MB Single-channel Shared6 DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
> > 17" (16.0"vis) Monitor
> > 40GB5 Ultra/ATA 100 Hard Drive
> > Integrated IntelTM  Extreme 3D Graphics
> > 90-Day Limited Warranty3 and At-Home Service4
> >
> >
> Well, I don't know why you didn't check the Amida Simputer site, but
> here are the specs:
> http://www.amidasimputer.com/specs/
>
> On a hardware level, it's pretty hard to compete with the laptop. But
> the Simputer has a few things that a discerning person will appreciate -
> such as a lack of need for downloading of Microsoft Service Packs (if
> that's a big loss for some, I don't know why), and special software
> which is written specifically for developing world applications. If it
> makes anyone feel better, perhaps we could get LPI to offer a Simputer
> Certification. :-)
>
> Since the 206MHz StrongArm Intel CPU doesn't need to run Windows XP,
> it's probably at least as responsive as the above machine - possibly
> faster. The video card is a non-issue; it's comparing a palmtop to a
> laptop (thus the same with the monitor). The Simputer also, I am sorry
> to say, lacks moving parts - so it's probably more robust in the long
> run. And with only 64 Megabytes of RAM, the Simputer won't run Windows
> XP. Fortunately, since it's running Linux, it doesn't *need* 64
> megabytes of RAM.
>
> I'll have 2 months of support. When I have it, after 2 months in Guyana,
> I can speak more about that - if I have to use it. But that's a
> *service*, and isn't really a hardware specification or software
> specification.
>
> The real plus that I see? The hardware specs are open - Dell is
> notorious for creating specific parts that only are for Dell machines
> (so you have to buy parts directly from them). And the 'At-Home Service'
> and 90 day Limited Warranty are only useful when you can get support
> locally - and if you can get that support from an authorized Dell
> Dealer, you may have to wait a while for parts (a thing called 'Just In
> Time Inventory' makes that a concern). The Simputer, on the other hand,
> will get support from India - and I imagine in Guyana I'll have the same
> problems, until some group within the Latin American/Caribbean region
> produces them. But if I do need to ship it, it's 206 grams. I'll save a
> few stamps.
>
> Then there's the software, which is written for the person in the
> developing world. Oh - and I'm betting that a battery life of 8-12 hours
> outclasses just about any laptop.
>
> And as far as cost - tell me how many of the components in that Dell are
> manufactured for Dell, and we can work a ratio. The Simputers cost will
> go down, the Dell costs are already down because of mass production.
>
> Really, I think you could better compare this Palm Pilot to your Dell:
> http://www.palmone.com/us/products/handhelds/tungsten-e/
>
> Again, bear in mind that these products are presently mass produced,
> whereas the Simputer is not.
>
> Until I have one in my hand and play with it, though, I can't tell you
> the plus side of the Simputer. I have a laptop. But I look forward to
> the Simputer, because it's a flexible machine which can be produced
> anywhere in the world. I'm getting the full Software Development Kit as
> well (not included in that price), and maybe I'll have some time to
> really put the Simputer through my paces. And with 12 hours to do it as
> I wander the globe, I expect I can have some real fun.
>
>
> So - what did we learn from the comparison? I hope we learned that they
> are different machines... and also that hardware requirements for
> running an operating system which also allows an accelerometer as an
> input device is small enough to fit into a machine with these
> considerably lower hardware requirements. I hope we realize that the
> comparison was between 2 machines with quite different objectives.
>
> But if you want to know if I would have bought a Dell like the one above
> instead of a Simputer - if that's really what you're asking - well,
> you'll get a very different answer. After all, in a few years I'll be
> able to buy PCs directly from Venezuala instead of the U.S. Maybe
> Venezuala might manufacture Simputers as well. I imagine that people in
> outlying areas might find a Simputer more feasible than a Dell laptop,
> but I'll make you a deal. Check my weblog after I get the Simputer and
> head to Guyana - I'll have it in action, and we can have a more
> interesting discussion then.
>
> Heck, I might even email you from it while I go check out some fishing
> in the area- if I get a chance (I expect I'll be too busy for fishing).
> And if you want to really have a comparison, send me a Dell with the
> above specs - but instead, have Dell install Linux for me if you could.
> The price might go down even more, and would make the value of the Dell
> increase a bit.  If you want my shipping address in Panama, let me know.
> Or if you want to ship it directly to Guyana, I can probably dig up an
> address on that as well.
>
> I'll give you a fair comparison wherever I go. :-) Don't think I'll let
> the Simputer off easily because I 'like it'.
>
> -- 
> Taran Rampersad
> Presently in: San Jose, Costa Rica
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>
> http://www.knowprose.com
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> http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/Taran
>
> "Criticize by creating." — Michelangelo
>
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